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The Stardust Crusader faces the Ordeal of the Indigo Noon
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It's not combat applicable. It just involves the same creatures coming back in the next ordeal despite being vaporised
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then time stop punch gg
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The moment Jotaro gets a glimpse of an anomaly, he will go insane. And this is the type that can make people want to kill themselves
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oh then this is one sided and jotaro loses
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Keep in mind that he's in an armory. Jotaro would probably try to grab one of the guns to shoot himself and Star Platinum would repeatedly try to save his ass.
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The passive fear manip doesn't seem like an instant win, it just makes them panic a bit and they're not hitting Jotaro with any black attacks due to not having the means to get past SP without getting beaten
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Speed equalized equalizes speed to the slower character so their speed gets equalized to Jotaro's. However since Star Platinum is on autopilot, there's a good chance he won't be able to perform his more complex moves like Heart grab, time stop, and most importantly, punch barrage
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They are HE anomalies which means mediocre aura and there's 2 of them so effects stack
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Why are we assuming madness manip would passively make Jotaro suicidal? Insanity =/= Suicidal
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I have learned painfully from @Lou_change that it is assumed that all effects of Panic are used when a person goes insane via Anomaly. Since they're already willing to fight, the next possible effect is suicide
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I could’ve sworn Jotaro had resistance to fear stuff cause of Dio but apparently it’s nowhere to be found
This matchup is gonna get confusing for me now
This matchup is gonna get confusing for me now
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Let me just give you a simple rundown
Jotaro sees Sweepers
Jotaro goes insane
Jotaro tries to kill himself
Star Platinum is a bro and keeps him from doing so
Sweepers try to kill Star Platinum who is restricted to basic moves because he's on autopilot
These guys will not retreat so it depends on how fast Star Platinum can kill them with basic moves while also taking care of his user
I just realized that Star Platinum has an AP advantage (7.83 tons to 4.9 tons). Good thing I picked DiU Jotaro
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So when a stand user is affected by mind attacks the stand just works on autopilot? What about stuff like Anubis, heaven’s door, and the time Giorno made Bruno’s brain go fast or whatever and he just got punched in the face again.
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Jotaro is unique since Star Platinum has been been shown to do stuff despite Jotaro not having any control over it. So yes, Star Platinum himself can go on autopilot
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well there’s spice girl and act 3 and GER and technically chariot requiem, Anubis, cheap trick, and probably other stands, so it’s not just Jotaro
Anyways if speed isn’t equalized then I’m sure he can handle bullets and win the fight
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Speed equalized literally has no effect on Jotaro and in fact slows his opponents down
Keep in mind that if the fight goes too long, Jotaro will proceed to snap his own neck. And since there are 2 sweepers, if one of them dies, the other can fully heal off their corpse. That is the best gimmick for them
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sp wont let that happen
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DIU Jotaro's AP is
P4 Star Platinum>Morioh RHCP (7.83 tons)
Pretty decent when he is up against a 4.9 ton character.
Star Platinum not doing time stop on its own? Okay fine, sure thing, go ahead but saying he can't do a punch barrage or the hypothetical heart grab is kinda sus when Star Platinum was shown to do something as complex as a "heart grab" on Jotaro himself, so punch barrages should be easy as hell to do.
P4 Star Platinum>Morioh RHCP (7.83 tons)
Pretty decent when he is up against a 4.9 ton character.
I don't know man, Star Platinum was able to grab shit Jotaro likes and placed it inside his prison cell at the start of Part 3. It literally grabbed specific shit like a shonen jump magazine which fits for Jotaro's age demographic to books such as relating to magic and mysteries which makes sense since Jotaro thinks he has a evil spirit. It had also stopped Jotaro's heart even tho Jotaro had no plan on doing that maneuver in the first place and Star Platinum on its own restarted Jotaro's heart. That shit is complex already.
Star Platinum not doing time stop on its own? Okay fine, sure thing, go ahead but saying he can't do a punch barrage or the hypothetical heart grab is kinda sus when Star Platinum was shown to do something as complex as a "heart grab" on Jotaro himself, so punch barrages should be easy as hell to do.
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Weather has never seen such bullshit.
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Aren't Sweepers capable of harming Star Platinum due to NPI? Also, Resistance Negation (which is specified to negate physical durability) comes into play.
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You need NPI but cooler to **** with most Stands.
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Sweepers can hit from non-corporeal to AA Type 1.
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So? Those are two different things completely.
It's cool they can hit an abstract, but hitting an abstract doesn't let you hit someone with like 100000 layers of NPI for example. And vice versa, hitting something that's on like 70 layers of NPI doesn't mean you can punch an abstract.
It's cool they can hit an abstract, but hitting an abstract doesn't let you hit someone with like 100000 layers of NPI for example. And vice versa, hitting something that's on like 70 layers of NPI doesn't mean you can punch an abstract.
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I was just stating the range of their interaction, in case Stands weren't just non-corporeal. Anyway, like Baken said, how many layers of NPI are stands?
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Last I checked you just need NPI+1. There's some Stands that have even better intangibility but average Stand is just +1.
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Some Stands aren't, something like WoU is abstract, while others are physically bound or manifested, but on average, and in the case of Plat, you need NPI one step above normal NPI, like, if you can hit a ghost, that's baseline, now Stands are one step above that.
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I don't know how many layers specifically Abno's are, i'll check right now.
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You also need ESP+1 to perceive him fyi.
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Ok, so Abno's are baseline, so cannot effect stands.
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Ok, and I'm assuming they can't see him too.
Meaning they have to kill Jotaro, which might be hard given invisible punch ghost.
Can Plat just not punch them really, really, hard, caving both their heads in, assuming Regen isn't applicable.
Meaning they have to kill Jotaro, which might be hard given invisible punch ghost.
Can Plat just not punch them really, really, hard, caving both their heads in, assuming Regen isn't applicable.
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Pretty sure regen is applicable, considering that ordeals do come back multiple times a day, but yes, I guess plat can just kill them.
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More like incon, considering Sweeper just regen's.
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