The secret use of God Ki

[ArachDusa]

God Ki is known in the Dragon Ball community as something that was hyped early on as super special and powerful only to then be completely forgotten by the time the Tournament of Power rolls around. Here in the Vs Battles wiki, it is acknowledged as a unique power separate from normal Ki, but outside from the pocket reality thing that's only considered an ability of God Ki in Heroes, the only ability it is considered to have is the inability to be sensed by those lesser than a God. However, I would argue that God Ki has another powerful ability that has been overlooked by the fandom: Mortals who are lesser than a God are not only unable to sense God Ki, they aren't able to affect it either.
This has been stated quite straightforwardly by Beerus in Battle of Gods:

Of course, you might argue that this statement was only in the movie and no longer canon. However, in the Dragon Ball Super anime, Vegeta not only reaffirms that he cannot attack a God like Whis, but also affirms that it's specifically because of God Ki:

In conclusion, God Ki should be given the additional ability of invulnerability and immunity to normal Ki, as well as potentially status effect inducement (as Vegeta implies he can't even attack Whis) so long as the opposing party is lesser than a God, likely following the same rules as the ones that prevent mortals from sensing God Ki. If you have a contrary objection, I would love to hear it. Thank you.

 

[Damage3245]

God Ki definitely doesn't grant invulnerability because people who have used God Ki can be hurt and harmed by mortals too.

 

[Stryker861]

people in the tournament of power like jiren, toppo, Kefka,etc can damage goku and vegata when they are using their God forms though

 

[KingTempest]

Does Frieza, Broly, and Jiren not affect blue Goku and Vegeta?

 

[Spinoirr]

Does Frieza, Broly, and Jiren not affect blue Goku and Vegeta?

This is bc they're Mutants or special other factors

But yeah, you right

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

Leaving aside that the quality of the images is so bas that the dub cannot be read without causing pain to your eyes, there are countless counter examples to this in Dragon Ball Super as others have pointed out

 

[thetechmaster36]

This is bc they're Mutants or special other factors

Jiren is literally just

A guy

He doesn't have anything special about him besides the fact that he's super strong, so that's not a very good explanation

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

You don't even have to go that far. Gohan vs Goku in both Pre-ToP and after Cell Max Saga proves that God Ki does indeed not provide resistance over Normal Ki attacks.

 

[Spinoirr]

Jiren is literally just

A guy

He doesn't have anything special about him besides the fact that he's super strong, so that's not a very good explanation

Ain't he you know, really old bc belmod when he was a mortal knew jirens master personally and jiren trained under him when he was alive

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

i agree because it makes DB more haxxed and anyone saying otherwise is wrong

Yea no I disagree there's a LOT of problems and contradictions.

 

[Spinoirr]

Maybe this'll help you understand God ki better man, bc this is flat out wrong

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Full HD images

 

[Thelastmlg]

Also being a mutant doesn’t change your ki i’m pretty sure

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

Gotta disagree for reasons above.

 

[ChoursDropoff]

Idk if this is a joke but I’m case it’s not I disagree.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Disagree with Invulnerability.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

In conclusion, God Ki should be given the additional ability of invulnerability and immunity to normal Ki, as well as potentially status effect inducement (as Vegeta implies he can't even attack Whis) so long as the opposing party is lesser than a God, likely following the same rules as the ones that prevent mortals from sensing God Ki.

Firstly, God Ki cannot be sensed by normal Ki users because achieving God Ki requires maximizing and then completely sealing one's Ki within their body.

Secondly, Vegeta was held back by a 寄せつけぬ無気の気は ["impenetrable aura of lifelessness"], which kept Vegeta mystified until Whis revealed his level of strength—being even higher than the likes of Beerus. The only reason Vegeta hesitated in his approach was because he could not understand Whis or his ability, not because God Ki grants Invulnerability (by the way, only the screenshot from the Battle of Gods film implies Invulnerability), or because God Ki prevents any attack altogether (see: any fight in Dragon Ball Super NOT involving Zamasu); he could not sense Whis's power, and that knowledge (or lack thereof) frightened him.

 

[Killerdrone123]

Yeah got to disagree with this

 

[Golden_Void]

It's because they're weak. Jiren had an invisible barrier of normal ki against base Goku.

 

[ArachDusa]

Alright, you all made a lot of good points and I understand where you're coming from. But there's also one argument I think is fundamentally flawed, which is the counterexample of mortals being able to harm God Ki users. It seems like a fair criticism on the surface, but we also have examples of mortals like Jiren, Hit, Future Trunks, etc. being able to sense God Ki users. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the Wiki already addressed this in the way that it phrased the idea of Ki sensing resistance: It describes God Ki as "not being able to be sensed by those lesser than a God" rather than simply "cannot be sensed by mortals". The implication, which I agree with, appears to be that mortals who are comparable to Gods in power such as Jiren are not "lesser" than a God and are therefore able to sense God Ki despite not having it themselves. That said, the rest of your arguments are good, so I will not continue to advocate for a revision.
I do however have a note about the pictures being low quality: Those are screenshots I took myself, in HD, and then uploaded to the wiki in HD before using Ctrl+P to insert them via link because for some reason this is the only way to embed an image in the forum, and for some reason this led to the pictures being tiny and forcing me to resize them, which led to the reduce in quality. I have no idea how to upload a picture to the forum without it shrinking.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Future Trunks … being able to sense God Ki users

 

[Golden_Void]

It describes God Ki as "not being able to be sensed by those lesser than a God" rather than simply "cannot be sensed by mortals". The implication, which I agree with, appears to be that mortals who are comparable to Gods in power such as Jiren are not "lesser" than a God and are therefore able to sense God Ki despite not having it themselves.

So you're basically doubling down on this just being a stat difference and there's no real ability derived from god ki here.

 

[SamanPatou]

Besides all the aforementioned points, as in the numbers of people who have harmed gods can be counted on the legs of a scolopendra, most of the times characters who sense godly ki speak of a "pressure" or "overwhelming presence", instead of proper ki sensing.

 

[HelloThere1089]

"pressure"

Pressure? Is that a Bleach reference????

Anyways, I disagree with the OP.

 

[AizenBankai09]

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Besides all the aforementioned points, as in the numbers of people who have harmed gods can be counted on the legs of a scolopendra, most of the times characters who sense godly ki speak of a "pressure" or "overwhelming presence", instead of proper ki sensing.

I think we have enough deals to close this, if Op doesn't mind closing this then that's fine.

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Waiting for an admin to do this to the thread

 

[Damage3245]

Alright. Closing this.