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Dragon Ball: KI Manipulation P&A Page
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I separated them because I don't think Ki is composite here, right? If Z gets the abilities from the Super anime, that means the Super manga would get it too. I'm open for all possibilities so if Ki is composite, I'll just merge everything
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Right, it's not every profile that has Ki Manipulation abilities listed the way Gas, Granolah and some other profiles have, so if the characters get the abilities from the same links, texts and so on like the entries of Sound Manipulation, Space-Time Manipulation and Portal Creation, that's when I think they should be removedThis is a part I don't really agree with. I think it is beneficial to list the abilities that a character displays on their profile when it comes to something as simple as their Ki Manipulation abilities. For example, on Gas' page:
I don't think it'd be useful to remove Flight or Forcefield Manipulation from the list just because he's linked to the Ki Manipulation page.
I think it's fine to link to the new page and make a note of "Master" or "Beginner" when it comes to Ki Manipulation - but I think it should still be fine to list Ki abilities that the character in question has performed.
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For the abilities that the characters haven't directly performed, sure, I think that's a fine solution.
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I suppose it's the same thing as Trunks resisting Petrification, so I'll put it together with the aura barrier entry
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Kinda funny to think this was rejected before just because of the name.
I agree, amazing work on this.
I agree, amazing work on this.
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Beautiful work, I agree with the CRT!
But I have a question, will God Ki and other forms of Ki will be added to the page or is this just about base Ki itself?
But I have a question, will God Ki and other forms of Ki will be added to the page or is this just about base Ki itself?
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Does god ki in canon even have enough to warrant being there?
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Enhanced ki sensing, resistance to ki sensing, and better ki control to the point of creating constructs and weaponry
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I mean it's resistant to ki sensing unless you also have God Ki IIRC
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What I think could also be that small amount of regeneration that Goku has because of SSJG.
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God ki is inherently more refined, so it has plenty of reason to be listed
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Non godly ki being can do that, as we can see with Vegetto
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Nothing like Goku and Beerus creating dragons and Fusion Zamasu creating a whole ass kaiju
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those are not weapons tho
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The other forms of ki doesn't have too many applications in canon like non-canon does, so I don't see a reason to add it
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God ki is the only thing that is straight up different IIRC
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This looks pretty dang good, great work
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I like this overall, but there are some things I take issue with. They are as follows:
Why is a general ability being given here when this is a very specific technique that only Master Roshi knows? This should be removed
My other issue is actually the exact same thing, but with the Sealing section. The only thing in that section is the Mafuba, and the Mafuba is a specific technique. It has no business being on a general Ki Manipulation page, and since that's the only part of the Sealing section, that section should be removed entirely.
Why is a general ability being given here when this is a very specific technique that only Master Roshi knows? This should be removed
My other issue is actually the exact same thing, but with the Sealing section. The only thing in that section is the Mafuba, and the Mafuba is a specific technique. It has no business being on a general Ki Manipulation page, and since that's the only part of the Sealing section, that section should be removed entirely.
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Maybe a small tab could be added for God Ki? Since it does have a few small things (like resistance to Ki sensing) that all god Ki users share. But if not then nevermind.
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The entire Manipulation section is just there to explain how Ki works and how it's applied on the series, hence why I didn't add Mafuba or Bankoku Bikkuri Shou on the mastery section. I suppose I should make a note explaining that
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We can see that in the future
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If it was, I'm fine with removing it
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It's just Ki infusion so I added it as a general ability, Beerus also did something similar against Goku
If it's durability negation or not, DB characters have internal resistance through Ki, so I don't know if it should be classified as durability negation even though there is not any durability being negated
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If they have internal resistance through Ki that should probably be added for them. Attacks that harm you internally from my understanding is durability negation
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Wouldn't it be a resistance to the denial of durability? At least the internal damage part that is talked about on the page.
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I don't think resistance to durability negation is a thing anymore, Saitama used to have it from resisting internal damage, but he doesn't now
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Only limited dura neg tho, your insides are less rigid than your outsides, but they also have to take the recoil of when you move or attack, so having a strong body already gives you a "resistance" to attacking internal organs
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I mean no, especially when Gogeta is stronger and what he is doing to Broly
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Gogeta is stronger, but broly is still strong enough to tank his attacks, causing a explosion on you is not going to completely negate your durability
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It's not on you. It's in you
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This is amazing, I obviously agree.
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There isn't much of a difference
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I mean yes it is
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Would like to see a sandbox with a couple examples from existing profiles showing how this would look when added.
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The detonation starts inside their bodies, not outside, recooome, broly and Goku have all shown that their insides are just as protected as their outsides
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