I mean, unless proof is showed that don't mean that a character always begin with their strongest hax, to give an example that would be like me saying that just because Hajime don't care of anything more than kill his enemy as fast as possible he will always begin with his broken conceptual type 1 ee (something that isn't the case at all), that EMIYA will always begin with his most broken NPs (something that isn't true), and shit like that, you actively need to show proof that with all his immense arsenal of possibilities Johnny will begin most of the time with his time stop and will abuse it in an effective way to kill his enemy.
Take a look at what I was arguing when I was debating against Reaper earlier in the thread.
Actually in the specific case of the sea of crows I can see him using it (because that would actually be quite disturbing), but in most other cases like with other attacks more normals I honestly don't see him using it, and there is even less possibility of him using it in the cases where his opponent just directly use haxs instead of physical attacks.
Johnny has all the time in the world to finish off his opponents if they have no counter to his Time Stop. He doesn't necessarily have to kill his opponents either (most of his hax don't even do that to begin with, so I don't know what you're trying to get at with this argument). His Time Stop gives him the automatic upper hand if/when he pulls it off. It's as simple as that.
Exactly. Whether or not the Time Stop ends is all up to Johnny. He can continue time whenever he feels like it.
Johnny is objectively at his smartest when it comes to combat, so the intelligence argument doesn't come into play here. Besides, he's really only shown to be dumb when it comes to school, and that mainly stems from laziness. When he actually puts his mind to it, he's deceivingly smart. In fact, there's actually a feat from the show that puts him at a much higher intelligence rating than he's currently at, which is something I will deal with in a future CRT for the verse.
Please give reasons as to why all of these people beat Johnny instead of listing them off one by one, because these lads still have to go through much more stuff other than his Time Stop, and Time Stop is already going to be a lot to deal with.
I'll go through the two I know.
And what is that specific something that will let him win?
Already talked about this.
Tbf I didn't add NPI on Johnny's profile, so I have no idea why that's there lol.
Deconstruction, sleep manipulation, Mind Manipulation, yeah there's a few.
How do these work? Test has his own Sleep Manip and Mind Manip, too.
Yeah, I have no idea how Johnny can counter something turning invisible. He doesn't really have anything that can help him detect where Danny's at, or any kind of ability that can help predict or tell the future (Precognition).
Mind manip has Henry pull a Zelda thing and make 4 movements to Mind control
Might have to elaborate a bit on this. I don't know shit about Zelda and these "4 movements" lol.
I think Johnny can dodge that. He doesn't need any of his hax.
Johnny has many, many ways of avoiding this.
He holds a stick and waves it 4 times in a rhythmic motion.
I think that's enough time for Johnny to do something before Henry completes the motion.
1. I mean, once you got something figured out, you basically know to do it without much effort, but at the same time, Johnny can't do it for an infinite amount of times because his stamina doesn't allow him to do that (even though he has very good stamina).
Maybe, maybe not.
He will not be 8A anymore...
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D&D is literally in the running, are you sure about that
Well I mean if they can resist the reality warping or do so themselves then yeah sure they'd def win.
They resist + to affect them you have be able to affect them in 3 different planes of being at once, along with the fact they have AE1 and a bunch of hax on their own.
you'll have to explain the 3 different planes stuff.
Can he even interact abstract existent type 1? Plus bypass low godly regen.
For the latter Incarnation would most likely allow him to bypass it since it's not just Reality Warping but also Probability Manipulation, Stat Amp, and Fate Manip (although less applicable in this case).
You aren't get it right? Say, he time stop Crowfather for example without getting freezed or something, what Johnny will especifically do while time is stopped to incap Crowfather in a way that when time move again he isn't able to instantly use any hax against him? Or changing Crowfather for Danny what wouldn't let Danny possess Johnny or use any of his haxs the time stop end? What would prevent Kirito from using his killer haxs that Johnny can't defend against at all? Or even Kars that was just propossed what Johnny could do to prevent him from absorf Johnny when touched, possess him or just simple use Hammon to destroy his insides? And this with most candidates or characters in the list, if Johnny instantly time stop at the beginning then he don't even get to know what the opponent is able to do, which in turn mean he can prepare counters to most haxs.
The more +s you need on your weapon to hit the outsider, the more planes of existence they are on simultaneously, so for the outsiders listed here who need +1s or +2s to hit, they exist on two or three planes of existence at once, and to be affected, you have to affect them at once in all of the said planes.
That sounds like quite the smurf range so don't really think they should be on the list.
The plane are not 4D so nah.
Just ******* melt his ass
He can still come back from mush, you need to completely vaporize him.
It still implies he can
They planes itself don't need to be 4D, just the range between them which in beginning it seems to be since they sound as different universes.
