The removal of Toeiverse Lifting Strength (Dragon Ball)

[Chariot190]

goku literally pushing away a mountain against kid buu.

Oh that's another decent one, you can use tensile strength too given he pushes it apart.

 

[Omegabronic]

What kinda idiot would use the elephant seriously? And who's a bigger idiot to agree with that?

Chill with the insults

 

[TheGreatBanana]

You think this could yield some good results?

 

[Spinoirr]

Oh that's another decent one, you can use tensile strength too given he pushes it apart.

Doesn't that happen in Kai too thus cannon to the Super Anime?

 

[Chariot190]

You think this could yield some good results?

Yeah but it's one of those "they definitely didn't intend for that" type of feats, it's not the type of feat I'd use as a basis, if a bunch of feats get around that lv, it could be used as support tho, but the animators obv didn't mean for that to be LS feat.

The space shit (the moving part might be hard given, but he still throws the rock kms, probably Class G or something), Goku splitting a mountain apart (Mountain ain't huge, but he splits it so that's tensile, he moves it across the ground, so that's shear, the area around the mountain and the mountain itself shatters so that's force, all of which combine for a LS value), Cell stopping a meteorite (Work to decelerate its mass), Goku lifting a chunk of a city (might be hard, but the depth of it is pretty huge given we're talking about an earthquake iirc), are the big 4 "this is obviously LS" toei feats.

If we use TK, which idk we might? Think anime has a few cases of it being used against each other.
Freeza's mountain lift in the anime, the pyramind shit tho that'd need to be redone, Cell ripping a hill off the ground (Class M tensile).

There's also stuff like Trunks lifting Supernova with one finger, or Kid Buu pushing back the Spirit Bomb, both of which ****** up the ground, so that could be calced.

There's a lot of shit, the problem is nobody is making an effort to gather stuff for calcing.
Manga has a lot less shit tho, i looked awhile back and couldn't find a feat past Class M.

 

[DivineAura44]

Put 'em at Unknown and call it a day, the writers clearly dgaf, why should we?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I strongly disagree with this

 

[Planck69]

The antigravity and elephant antifeats generally don't make sense, but I do think that we should have more lifting strength calcs than a seemingly early series feat for the rest of the verse, just to compare and see if it's a reasonable end or not.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

I definitely concur with the notion that we need to calc a lot more feats before making any judgements on what's consistent and what isn't.
A few of the examples brought up in the OP aren't great anti-feats, however. That being said, some other examples are still worth considering imo.

 

[StrymULTRA]

I'll just say that I won't be able to make many calcs for this Wiki for the time being, as I am in semi-limbo rn.

If someone else is willing to do calcs, they'll be welcome.

 

[Spinoirr]

Oh that's another decent one, you can use tensile strength too given he pushes it apart.

Might as well calculate all these feats In a blog alongside the Daima lifting strength

 

[Chariot190]

What episode is the Cell slop, Mountain feat, city feat, etc. Basically the relevant calc-feats.
I know they exist, not like I haven't watched DBZ, but I ain't pirating downloading 100gb of slop to find the exact episodes, given I'm not using 240p youtube shit if I decide to calc anything.

The Cell one should be very easy to do if it's how I remember (think we get a side view, which would make getting the work easy af).
and then ill fruget to do it

Might as well calculate all these feats In a blog alongside the Daima lifting strength

I don't WANNA do them all.... I wanna calc Gobon feats and frish feats....

 

[Da3ggman]

What episode is the Cell slop, Mountain feat, city feat, etc. Basically the relevant calc-feats.

Goku parts a Mountain: DBZ Episode 88

Goku throws the rock: DBZ Episode 111

Cell saves the Earth: DBZ Episode 169

Goku lifts the city: GT episode 52 (I will never forgive you for making me look through GT)

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

stuff like dragon ball with a lot of content is gonna tend to have a lot of anti feats the writers dont really think much of but ya best to find more feats to see what's the best option

 

[RenderGK]

What kinda idiot would use the elephant seriously? And who's a bigger idiot to agree with that

No idea

 

[Kroneii1]

I would also include the time goku deflected a ki attack to another planet in seconds.

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Are we going to ignore how stupid this one is? Like even ignoring the LS part, we would be saying Goku is being harmed by 9-C/9-B stuff

Damn guess whole of DBZ caps at 9-A. Its over Goku Bros.

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Honestly we should downgrade the AP to 9-C as well.

Clearly Rock > Saiyans. I don't care if we have rules for PIS or Outliers.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Guys, if you meme this instead of actually focusing on the thread's purpose, this goes to RVR.

I already admitted above that the elephant thing was mostly a meme, but this doesn't mean that constant derail is ok.

Knock it off please.

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

I agree with getting the thread back on track but you were the one who knowingly included the elephant shit, fully aware how bad of an example it is, in the CRT for the entirely self admitted reason of getting traction and attention.

You don't get to threaten people with a report when they meme on the bait you put in, simply ask to stay on topic sure, but this is the bed you made chief if you don't want to lay in it you shouldn't have tucked the sheets the way you did.

 

[StrymULTRA]

That's fair, but I think that enough is enough.

Anyway, as I said I don't have time to do calcs here ATM, so if someone else is willing to in the meantime for Goku's planetoid, Frieza's mountain, Cell's meteor, and the other stuff mentioned, it'd be ideal.