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I must unleash my rage for people continuing to make these ******* threads after part 2 hasn't even happened
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The Rematch: Archie Sonic vs Ness
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Just looked at both their abilities, Ness nor the Truth resist shit like the concept manip
Chaos Control, unironically, Sonic has used it quite a few times in his super form to rewritte reality, since Super Sonic appeared less than like 10 times in the comic and used the ability at least 3 times after learning it
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Does his sleep hax work on oppentents that actively receive energy and is actively getting faster by said power?
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Tell that to the dumb **** OP (**** you btw Blaze), I never asked for this horse shit lmao
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(Sonic could unironically erase the Truth, it doesn't resist his haxes and Power Rings give him knowelege)
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Yes, nuclear reactor robots do literally that.
Ok let me see the scans of him starting off with it though. Also can you send the direct scan of when he did this, cause I'm pretty sure genesis wave he very clearly yelled out chaos control.
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Idc what Sonic could do to truth I want scans these are thought based.
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Wait, PSI is Mind Manipulation? Doesn't Sonic resist Mind Manipulation from Dr. Finiteveus's curse and Al & Cal actively trying to use it on Sonic?
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PSI is mind manip in that he uses his mind to use said power. Hypnosis is sleep hax.
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Isn't the application of Hypnosis effecting the Mind?
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Seeing as robots don't have minds, no.
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Don't quote me on this one, but according to Sonic's profile he can manipulate reality through speaking or through thought scaling to Knuckles so I think either of them if he wanted
ShakeResounding
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This should've been aborted like all the other unwanted children
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There are instances of Chaos Control being activated non-vocally
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Anytime the Brotherhood uses it. Shadow too actually.
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If it's scaling to someone he doesn't open up with it, hypnosis is Ness' own thing he uses in character. Idk about you but an actual ability you use vs. something someone's scaling to I would take the actual showing.
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"Starting off with", the issue is that after Sonic learned this ability he never fought someone that didn't get easily stomped, but I will post all the scans, meanwhile post the ""scans"" of Ness starting with mindhax in battle and keeping someone asleep, I ain't playing this alone
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Ok that's cool Mav, show me the instance where Sonic uses it for that.
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Clearly I don't know Ness's verse. What are these robots?
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1. This shouldn't have been made
2. Ness isn't even fully revised yet
3. Somebody obviously took a big fat shit in Giver's cereal this morning kek
4. As a result of the three points above, this should be closed
2. Ness isn't even fully revised yet
3. Somebody obviously took a big fat shit in Giver's cereal this morning kek
4. As a result of the three points above, this should be closed
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So we're randomly assuming that Sonic is going to open up with a reality warp ability because and I quote "he never fought someone he didn't get easily stomped", why exactly does he not think Ness won't get easily stomped when ness is lower in AP then him?
Well user, Ness is for one, omniscient, and for two, actually has hypnossi as one of his things, and for three is canonically a pacifist. Put those all together.
They're regular non-sentient, non-philosohpical robots that are made to attack, that's it. They have no minds and thus it's not mind manip.
1. I agree
2. Yes
3. Nah, I'm calm lol
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(Honestly sleep manip is probably his only wincon here)
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Ness' getting more hax won't null Ness just using sleephax gg, I need to see SONIC start off with concept manip or some type of thought based move
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(The only wincon that he instantly opens up with vs. me yet to see Sonic have any thought based opens up with)
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In conclusion: Someone needs to ban Blaze off the wiki lol
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Not an argument for the match itself, but the very energy that Super Sonic uses (and Ultra by extension) harms things on a conceptual level. Basic blasts of Chaos Energy in-verse are shown to harm those concepts.
Didn't mean to imply you aren't calm. You're just being as aggressive as those college school girls who find out they can't pass the class by giving their professors ******** lol
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From the Earthbound wiki:
"Sleepiness is a status ailment found in all three games in the Mother series. When a character is asleep, they cannot do anything until they wake up. They usually wake up within two or three turns, or if said character is attacked. Many moves can cause this status ailment, one of the best examples being Hypnosis."
"They usually wake up within two or three turns,"
Wait a minute...
"Sleepiness is a status ailment found in all three games in the Mother series. When a character is asleep, they cannot do anything until they wake up. They usually wake up within two or three turns, or if said character is attacked. Many moves can cause this status ailment, one of the best examples being Hypnosis."
"They usually wake up within two or three turns,"
Wait a minute...
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Based Quirky btw
GlaceonGamez471
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The OP
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Using the same wiki that says Giygas' has a weakness to hypnosis + starmen have all PSI isn't the best source.
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Yeah that's fair, I was trying to see if that was good enough
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If me saying "*******" is aggressive, god you need to see half of the discord servers I'm in.
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Okay Shake, but that doesn't prove he starts off an ability that counters a thought based ability
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It also has for Hypnosis Comments as "Puts enemies to sleep, though smart ones can avoid it"
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Yes avoid it as in hypnosis can fail on those with a resistance to it. In Earthbound enemies can "avoid" PSI attacks if the PSI fails.
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I feel a bit being lead
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It literally got officially removed from the verse. Long ago. If you feel you're being led, then they were leading you back before you were on even on this wiki.
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Man made of goddamm straw, I never said he would open it because he always stomped people, this is what I get expecting debating honesty instead of a war zone. I said that Sonic has used the ability every time after stomping someone since he learned it, nothing what I said is random. Super Sonic has all the powers of rings, which give him claravayonce (**** it I don't know how to spell it frick you, nobody is taking Blaze's spite seriously),
1: This isn't a scan, do what you ask others to do, 2: being onmicient does not give you information outside or verse and 3: pacifism means shit when they are willing to kill
Now the real important part
This is clearly a spite thread, like, unironically it is, so it should be closed and remade with an unbiased OP that doesn't want their friends to fight in a Civil War, goddamm I need to sleep, not argue here
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