The Player (Wizard101) Vs Tart

[The_Causality]

Well the first match of this guy from wizard101 versus a French PMMM characters, Tart, this would pleasure ZenkaiBatteri, let's start

• Speed Equalized
• Both High 3-A
• Both start at 100 meters

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Hmmm

Her profile confuses me. Does she have Fate Manipulation or is she just resistant to it? And how far is she in High 3-A

Edit: Is he in Shadow Shrike?

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

I'm going to assume he is

The Player always goes for the kill and he can bypass any resistances Tart would have to his magic. Unfortunately the strongest spells in the game wouldn't translate into a death battle type scenario, but luckily that won't change what spells he will use. Spells like Call of Cthulu is an extremely powerful life absorption spell and it's induced by shadow (anyone with shadow magic has some form of reality warping) so that could kill tart if we assume he's in his shadow form. And with his proabability Manipulation he can use spells like black mantle so the chances of Tart getting an attack on him is reduced to 45%, and yes, he can spam black mantle and conjuction with a buffed version to reduce her chances to use abilities to 5%. And she would need to bypass his resurrection somehow.


Unless Tart herself can manipulate Fate, I don't see how she can win. Even then, I'm not sure if he has Acausality or not tbh. Spider messed with time via shadow magic which gives users reality warping and everyone but The Player was affected

 

[RKGenki]

From Morghante's AP description the player seems to be 4-D high 3-A, while Tart is 3-D high 3-A, so he would probably stomp, unless he himself isn't 4-D

Anyway Tart does indeed have Fate manipulation, it's what made her High 3-A to begin with, and it is also passive as it works in a defensive way, saving her on numerous occasions.

It's basically a "I win because it's my fate" sort of thing, as NLFish as it sounds. But obviously if she can't affect him due to him being 4-D she still gets stomped.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

yes, the power was 4th dimensional and was going to rewrite the timeline, but she couldn't control all of it and was defeated. And he's stronger than a lot of other High 3-A's whom are stronger than morganthe

Then it's Fate Manipulation vs Shadow Magic which in verse grants reality warping on a universal scale. Since his profile doesn't state Acausality, we have to assume he doesn't have it in battle (It's possible he does going by the specifications for Acausality, which is exactly what spider did and the player was one of the few people in mirage who wasn't affected. But again, his profile doesn't state it)

 

[RKGenki]

It seems an AP stomp then.

Anyway her go to move would be BFRing to heaven, which is located outside of an infinite multiverse while restraining the target with chains, fate manip is passive.

 

[RKGenki]

Have you tried doing a CRT for acausality? It sounds like he should definitely have it

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Does her fate manipulation work on someone with 4-D High 3-A power? I don't think BFR can work, he can teleport passively

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

I'll make a CRT for Acausality

 

[RKGenki]

No, never did so as she never faced a 4-D character.

Well unless the teleportation has 2-A range I don't think it's enough, unless he teleports before reaching heaven, since the BFR is through a portal in the sky from which the chains come to restrain the target.

Okay.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1990910

 

[SomebodyData]

Tart's Fate Manipulation doesn't work on her enemies, feel like that is being forgotten here.

 

[RKGenki]

Yes but it's still an NLF to say that it can save her from 4-D powers

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

The Player having 4D power makes it a stomp.

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

Does Tart have any passives? Otherwise she can't do anything.

And is The Player physically 3-D or 4-D? If he's full blown 4-D then RIP Tart

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

>When the only thing keeping The Player in the game is shadow magic otherwise it would be the complete opposite result kek

Edit: No, he does not have 2-A Teleportation (maybe in the future, the game has just started introducing things outside the known timeline)

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Does Tart have any passives? Otherwise she can't do anything.
And is The Player physically 3-D or 4-D?

He's the high end of High 3-A which is 4-D

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Does Tart have any passives? Otherwise she can't do anything.

And is The Player physically 3-D or 4-D?

A physical 4D has to be a tier 2. The Player has 4D power that is less than universal which is why he's High 3-A.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

No, High end High 3-A is 4th dimensional powers

Edit: Oh physically? We don't know. But Spider went back to the past and if there was another version of him, then loigcally he would have done something but he didnt

 

[The_Wright_Way]

A physical 4D has to be a tier 2. The Player has 4D power that is less than universal which is why he's High 3-A.

No, High 3-A is finite 4-D. Tier 2 starts at infinite 4-D.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

A physical 4D has to be a tier 2. The Player has 4D power that is less than universal which is why he's High 3-A.

No, High 3-A is finite 4-D. Tier 2 starts at infinite 4-D.

Infinite 4D is 2-A.

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

Does Tart have any passives? Otherwise she can't do anything.

And is The Player physically 3-D or 4-D?

A physical 4D has to be a tier 2. The Player has 4D power that is less than universal which is why he's High 3-A.

When did this become a thing?

 

[The_Wright_Way]

A physical 4D has to be a tier 2. The Player has 4D power that is less than universal which is why he's High 3-A.

No, High 3-A is finite 4-D. Tier 2 starts at infinite 4-D.

Infinite 4D is 2-A.

No, that's 5-D.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

A physical 4D has to be a tier 2. The Player has 4D power that is less than universal which is why he's High 3-A.

When did this become a thing?

It didn't.

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

No, that's 5-D.

5-D is High 2-A

 

[The_Wright_Way]

High 2-A is 6-D. Cite your sources.

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

High 2-A is 6-D. Cite your sources.

I can't tell if you're trolling or not...

• High Multiverse level+: Characters who are 5-dimensional, and/or can destroy and/or create 5-dimensional space-time constructs of a not insignificant size. Characters who can destroy and/or create an uncountably infinite numbers of universes may potentially also be assigned this tier, as their geometrical 5-D size can be higher than 0.

 

[SomebodyData]

5-D is High 2-A.

 

[SomebodyData]

Yes but it's still an NLF to say that it can save her from 4-D powers

I... never said it would?

 

[The_Wright_Way]

...huh. I thought Mr. Mxy was High 2-A for being 6-D, and then came to the conclusion that 6-D was the minimum required for High 2-A. Logic fail on my part.

Anyways, this is what the Tiering System page says about High 3-A: High Universe level: Characters who have an infinite degree of 3-dimensional power. Alternately 4-dimensional power that is shown as completely qualitatively superior to 3-Dimensional beings, but is less than universal in scale. Or that allows them to create large parts of a universal continuum. Take note that 4-D power should logically always be superior to countably infinite 3-D power, so characters within this tier are not necessarily comparable. Also take note that we consider most small scale time-space abilities as hax, not as AP.

So, High 3-A is still Infinite 3-D to Finite 4-D.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

A physical 4D has to be a tier 2. The Player has 4D power that is less than universal which is why he's High 3-A.

No, High 3-A is finite 4-D. Tier 2 starts at infinite 4-D.

Infinite 4D is 2-A.

No, that's 5-D.

Let me break it down for you:

High 3-A: Infinite 3D power or 4D power less than universal.

Low 2-C: 4D universal

2-C: 2-1,000 universes

2-B: Any finite number > 1,000 universes

2-A: Infinite universes

High 2-A: 5D

Low 1-C: 6D

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

@Wright Sorry for my tone earlier.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

... and I contradicted myself. This is why you don't debate at 9:30 at night.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

See? Because this why i dislike High 3-A Jeanne match,it will either stomp due of "LUL 4-D" thing.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Is it a stomp then?

This should be closed if so

 

[The_Wright_Way]

So, 4-D power less than universal and finite 4-D are the same thing.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

So, 4-D power less than universal and finite 4-D are the same thing.

Unless if the amount of universes you can destroy is infinite (2-A), then you have finite 4D power.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Universe level+: ("Low 2-C") This is for characters who can destroy and/or create the entire 4-dimensional space-time of a single universe, not just the physical matter within one. For example, an entire timeline.


Low Multiverse level: Characters who can destroy and/or create up to 1000 universal space-time continuums. The power difference between Low 2-C and 2-C characters is not possible to exactly quantify, given that the latter category has to breach the distance between universes along a 5-dimensional axis

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Multiverse level+: Characters who can destroy and/or create a countably infinite number of 4-dimensional universal space-time continuums. Take note that the universes are technically lined up along a 5-dimensional axis, but that their geometrical size still amounts to 0 within this scale

Yeo, checks out. Sorry for being stupid.

 

[Elizhaa]

If they have the same tier, then this should not a key argument. Their abilities/hax should.

For the hax: The Player (Wizard101) hax: Death Manipulation, Life Manipulation, limited Probability Manipulation


Tart hax: Mind Manipulation, Pocket Reality Manipulation, BFR, Reality Warping

Tart has no resistance to the The Player (Wizard101) hax

For Tart Pocket Reality Manipulation, BFR: The Player (Wizard101) can use Teleportation so it won't matter

For Tart Reality Warping, and Mind Manipulation won't matter. The Player (Wizard101) is missing many key resistances on his profile from his fight with Grandfather Spider which includes Reality Warping, and Mind Manipulation

So, this looks like a win for the The Player (Wizard101). So, Voting for The Player (Wizard101) FRA