The One Above All's appearance in the ultimates2 #100.

[Fancy_Skull]

The One Above All makes a small cameo in the ultimates 2. He pretty much says what we already know about the character. However his last line "The mystery intrigues me" caught my eye. What do you think it means and what does it relate to? Share your thoughts on it.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Maybe being like the Law of Identity and intentionally restricting his omniscience.

 

[Antvasima]

I think that it was a reference to the Fantastic Four story in which he appeared in the form of Jack Kirby, and said something similar. Or at least I recall the writer, Al Ewing mentioning this.

 

[Fancy_Skull]

Also, do you think it was TOAA who sent out the "Multiversal ultimates" to deal with the FF?

 

[Antvasima]

Possibly, yes.

 

[Antvasima]

Btw: I added that scan to his profile page gallery.

 

[The_Number_One_Unknown_User]

It's seems like he embodies everything or he just a writer who draw on the outside and he and the Eternity ultimates exist beyond the marvel verse.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I love how there was a callback to the 60s Fantastic Four comic.

And The One Above All embodies everything, but at the same time everything is separate from him, and he simultaneously exists outside of everything.

He is kinda like Yog-Sothoth.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Here's how Al Ewing described The Outside, btw:

It's not really a realm — it's outside all realms. Beyond everything — beyond limbo, beyond the Neutral Zone, beyond even Eternity's influence. Right out into the absolute nothing. The Ultimates are heading out there because time is broken — or at least clearly badly dented — and they want to take a look at the damage, and they can't really do that from the inside. You can't fix a car while you're in it — you've got to get out and take a look under the hood. By taking this difficult, dangerous journey to the very outside of everything, the team are hoping to get a fresh perspective on what's wrong with spacetime and, maybe, take some steps to correct the problems.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Maybe meet other entities that naturally exist inside The Outside... That would be very interesting.

 

[The_Number_One_Unknown_User]

Maybe meet other entities that naturally exist inside The Outside... That would be very interesting.

That would be weird since Eternity exist in the outside they stated they go beyond the shore and then teleport away.

 

[The_Number_One_Unknown_User]

they even teleport beyond eternity who exist in the outside

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Eternity = Multiverse

The Outside = The Timeless Spaceless nothing outside the Multiverse

Beyond the Shore = Nonexistence

 

[The_Number_One_Unknown_User]

Eternity = Multiverse
The Outside = The Timeless Spaceless nothing outside the Multiverse

Beyond the Shore = Nonexistence

I thought the outside is nonexistences and I thought oblivion realm is in the outside.( it was stated that its beyond everything which can mean every creation etc)

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Thanks Matt.

 

[The_Number_One_Unknown_User]

I think the outside is where the author writer or draw on it(Cuz there appears chapters and pages in it even Oblivion was in those chapters)

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

The Outside is where the Multiversal Abstracts "live on", so to speak.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Wait, what ? Isn't the outside the "Dimension of Manifestations?" . So ... Living in a dimenisonless void =/= AP of a dimensionless void , correct ? If so..

 

[The_Number_One_Unknown_User]

is the outside 1-A?

 

[The_Number_One_Unknown_User]

But the Dmension of manifestation is a realm.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Realm can literally mean anything.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

The Dimension of Manifestations is for M-Bodies, it's outside the universe not the multiverse.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Then... What exactly is The Outside then ?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

If Eternity is High 1-B and is the entire Multiverse, where exactly is it stepping on? The Outside, i.e, literally what's outside the multiverse.

 

[The_Number_One_Unknown_User]

I think the Outside =/= Overspace

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

...Makes sense . If Eternity is the Multiverse and the Embodiment of Time and Space... I still am wondering how something inside Eternity was said to not be bound by time or space.

 

[The_Number_One_Unknown_User]

there are pretty alot things outside the multiverse like non existence beyond realm and more

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

I don't think you understand my problem here Number . Being not limited / not bound by time or space .. . I meant the M'krann Crystal/Nexus of All Realities [ which has two things stated to be not bound/limited by time or space, which has MUCH different implications than being beyond time and space ] , the one Phoenix re-created , the one Franklin was stated to be far superior to and re-created subconsciously .

 

[The_Omnipotente]

The Outside would be like the Primal Monitor?

 

[Fancy_Skull]

...Makes sense . If Eternity is the Multiverse and the Embodiment of Time and Space... I still am wondering how something inside Eternity was said to not be bound by time or space.

Probably just another one of Marvel's inconsistencies.

 

[Antvasima]

I think that the M'Kraan Crystal was simply intended to be beyond regular universal space-time, not beyond space and time as concepts in their entirety.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

I am not certain. Wolverine with the M'krann crystal had access to " all of creation " and can do with it as he pleases . That's definitely far greater than just beyond universal space time.

 

[Antvasima]

It was most likely hyperbole, or simply referring to the universe in this storyline. Marvel is extremely inconsistent.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

... Ok.

 

[Antvasima]

Anyway, since this topic seems to have been dealt with, should we close this thread?

 

[Fancy_Skull]

Yeah, we seem to have exhausted all discussion from this topic.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.