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It wasn't the Instinctive Reaction for me as much as it was Garou's regen and Reactive Evolution. Zoro's IR is better, imo.Zoro FRA, no clue why Garou's side is bringing up Instinctive Reaction whenever Zoro has feats of bypassing much more impressive IR since East Blue.
why do you speak with black letters?Zoro FRA.
why do you speak with black letters?
Could you summarize the arguments for Zoro again? I only remember bits and pieces as the flames started to singe some of them out of my mind.Zoro FRA, no clue why Garou's side is bringing up Instinctive Reaction whenever Zoro has feats of bypassing much more impressive IR since East Blue.
Wtf??? I didn't know that, i thought it was always white
Comparable if not superior Analytical Prediction, Zoro has two layers of Analytical Prediction and has experience in dealing with others with Analytical prediction. Better Acrobatics, being able to hard counter Garou's IR, Goken countering Garou's Attack Reflection due to it cutting only what Zoro wants, Comparable if not better stamina and endurance, etc.Could you summarize the arguments for Zoro again?
Yeah some of these arguments are dumb lol.I only remember bits and pieces as the flames started to singe some of them out of my mind.
Well, you can change the color of the scenery in the settings of VsF. For the majority it must be whiteWtf??? I didn't know that, i thought it was always white
Hold on, this is giving me a flashback to a previous Zoro VS Garou thread.Comparable if not superior Analytical Prediction, Zoro has two layers of Analytical Prediction and has experience in dealing with others with Analytical prediction. Better Acrobatics, being able to hard counter Garou's IR, Goken countering Garou's Attack Reflection due to it cutting only what Zoro wants, Comparable if not better stamina and endurance, etc.
Yeah some of these arguments are dumb lol.
It is the basic concept of the abilityAlso when did Garou ever reflect the attack back at the attacker?
Redirection =/= Attack Reflection. I'm still not seeing Garou Reflecting weapon Attacks back at the opponent in the form of slashing weapons.
It can reflect with double the strengthRedirection =/= Attack Reflection. I'm still not seeing Garou Reflecting weapon Attacks back at the opponent in the form of slashing weapons.
That's for unarmed blows, iirc he doesn't have feats of doing the same with swords.
That's for unarmed blows, iirc he doesn't have feats of doing the same with swords.
At the very least based off the scan you sent I don't think that's attack reflection, I've seen the same thing said in Hajime no Ippo about Counters (Which is literally the same movement shown in that scan):
At the very least based off the scan you sent I don't think that's attack reflection, I've seen the same thing said in Hajime no Ippo about Counters (Which is literally the same movement shown in that scan):
Is there any other showings of him actually reflecting an opponent's attack back at them with two times the strength?
The idea is to reflect the damage of the attack, as here. It is a different contextAt the very least based off the scan you sent I don't think that's attack reflection, I've seen the same thing said in Hajime no Ippo about Counters (Which is literally the same movement shown in that scan):
Is there any other showings of him actually reflecting an opponent's attack back at them with two times the strength?
It is said that it can redirect the force of the attack and we are always shown Garou doing this against his opponents, like here and here, is even said to be able to reflect the damage. I don't know why that wouldn't be attack reflection. And I don't even know why this is being related to Ippo, is a completely different contextHe isn't reflecting the attack back at the attacker however, Akame from AgK and Sanji are capable of the same thing but we don't give them attack reflection for that exact reason.
Redirection alone doesn't isn't apply for attack reflection.It is said that it can redirect the force of the attack and we are always shown Garou doing this against his opponents, like here and here, is even said to be able to reflect the damage.
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The scan you sent is literally Garou using a counter punch, which in Ippo uses the same returning the strength back two-fold statement, I'm asking if we ever get shown him doing attack reflecting Water Stream Rock Smashing Fist with a two-fold statement or implication.I don't know why that wouldn't be attack reflection. And I don't even know why this is being related to Ippo
Tank-Top refers to the attacks as "technique", which Garou uses to redirect the force, means that he is not talking about a simple punch.The scan you sent is literally Garou using a counter punch, which in Ippo uses the same returning the strength back two-fold statement,
The example there is used as a punch, not a blade.Tank-Top refers to the attacks as "technique", which Garou uses to redirect the force, means that he is not talking about a simple punch.
Yeah and this inherently isn't Attack Reflection as most of the time they aren't reflecting attacks back at the opponent.
Out of the scans you posted all of them are attack reflection of blunt force based attacks, he never sent the attack back at Royal Ripper all he did was change the trajectory of Royal Ripper's attack to hit the other guy. That's already something Zoro can do via Mutoryu.and we are always shown Garou doing this against his opponents, like here and here, is even said to be able to reflect the damage.
You'd need to prove Garou can send then back at the attacker, namely a sword based attack.I don't know why that wouldn't be attack reflection. And I don't even know why this is being related to Ippo, is a completely different context
This doesn't dispute what I said about it referring to a counter-punch, I need to ask is there any other mention of returning the strength back two-fold or is the counter-punch the only time it's mentioned?Tank-Top refers to the attacks as "technique", which Garou uses to redirect the force, means that he is not talking about a simple punch.
I think Lord Gin meant a feat where they reflect a sword using Bang's technique i forgot the name of the technique
Is this not Attack Reflection?
That’s half monster GarouHe reflects Ripper's attacks, so yes
That's human Garou.That’s half monster Garou