The Galactic Bomb: Cyrus Upgrade?

[Lavcore]

So i was playing pt and i noticed that team galactic have an extremely powerful bomb known as The Galactic Bomb and that they have multiple of them so i was wondering if we could get a calc on it and possibly get an upgrade for cyrus with a ???(this being the galactic bomb's power) to 2-B with prep upgrade also the explosion was felt even at canalave city, here are pics for the lake valor explosion:

Edit: a calc of this was already made but several people had problems with it Ex: using vaporization, so a recalc is needed.



Lake Valor Post-Explosio


Lake Valor after the events at spear pillar and presumably before the galactic bomb.

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

Here.

 

[Lavcore]

that calc used vaporization when there was clearly some water left it should preferably be recalced.

and aiden had some issues with the calc.

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

Wasn't the water remaining just some small puddles?

Anyways. There's an alternative using PE.

 

[Lavcore]

Wasn't the water remaining just some small puddles?
Anyways. There's an alternative using PE.

it exploded the water out of the lake not vaporized it that would make no sense whatsoever.

aiden had issues with that as well.

 

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[Antvasima]

You can ask a few staff members listed in the Pokémo verse page to comment here.

 

[Chariot190]

I'm fine with vaporization in some cases, it's stated to be vaporization in the manga, so even though the calc is for the games, technically it's fine because it would be the same as the manga version of the feat.

 

[Lavcore]

I'm fine with vaporization in some cases, it's stated to be vaporization in the manga, so even though the calc is for the games, technically it's fine because it would be the same as the manga version of the feat.

ok but it isn't tho.

 

[Chariot190]

Wouldnt matter,the calc we have would be valid for the manga, and due to how the wiki treats pokemon basically being composite, it'd effect the profiles all the same.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

My question is about the Magikarp. They survive it. Which has to do a lot with scaling given how pathetic Magikarp are supposed to be. They're durable, sure. That was always their one thing. But still. Everything is above em. And I do mean everything.

 

[Lavcore]

that's not how that works you can't have two similar feats with different results and say the Game feat is the same as the manga feat.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

You could also calc it creating a magnitude say...three earthquake that shakes all of Sinnoh, which is analogous to Hokkaido.

 

[Lavcore]

My question is about the Magikarp. They survive it. Which has to do a lot with scaling given how pathetic Magikarp are supposed to be. They're durable, sure. That was always their one thing. But still. Everything is above em. And I do mean everything.

i don't think the magikarp were very close to the bomb but this would still be a dura upgrade.

 

[Chariot190]

that's not how that works you can't have two similar feats with different results and say the Game feat is the same as the manga feat.

I'm not saying the game feat is the same, what I'm saying is that the calc, despite attempting to calc the game version, ended up calcing the manga version on accident (only difference being the manga is vaporization), and due to how the wiki treats pokemon, the manga version would probably just outright superceede the game version.

 

[Lavcore]

speaking of sinnoh, how large is it? this is important for the feat as the shock was felt throughout all of sinnoh.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

It's the size of Hokkaido.

 

[Lavcore]

was it said sinnoh is the size of hokkaido or just that it was based on it? very important distinction

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

The latter. Though, not sure it doesn't matter as all our Pokémon calcs assume the regions are the analogous to their IRL counterparts.

 

[Lavcore]

then that's questionable size scaling at best and outright unusable at worst being based on a place doesn't make it the same size as that place.

there should be a CRT to revise that as it isn't stated at all that they are the same size only that they're based on that place.

 

[Chariot190]

Both, the first few pokemon regions are basically 1:1 with the real world counterparts, hell Kanto didnt even get a name change, it's straight up Kanto. And wouldn't matter I dont think, even in cases where it's not 1:1, the locations that are intended to be the pokemon version of some place are the same size, such as route 6 kalos or example.

Mt. Silver is Mt. Fuji, for example. It's the same shit just with a different name.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Doesn't matter. That's the accepted practice. By that logic we should bring back planet size calcing unless it's Earth. Kalos=France for example isn't questionable at all. You're this world's analogue to France? Then we'll treat you as the same size as France.

 

[Lavcore]

being based on a place doesn't make it the same size as that place.

 

[Chariot190]

Except when it is, the fact that we have numbers given that correlate to the actual version of it kinda implies that rule of thumb, it is, why make note that things like Kalos route 6 or mt chimney have sizes that are the same as the actual version?

 

[Lavcore]

except almost all of the regions are simply based on something assuming they're the same size as that thing it's based on makes absolutely no sense whatsoever just because a region is based on france doesn't make it the exact same size as france.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

It's a reasonable assumption with no contradictions. Occam's Razor comes into play.

 

[Lavcore]

Except when it is, the fact that we have numbers given that correlate to the actual version of it kinda implies that rule of thumb, it is, why make note that things like Kalos route 6 or mt chimney have sizes that are the same as the actual version?

you're comparing 1:1 references to mountains and routes to the size of an entire region, you see where this comparison doesn't make sense right?

 

[Chariot190]

except almost all of the regions are simply based on something assuming they're the same size as that thing it's based on makes absolutely no sense whatsoever just because a region is based on france doesn't make it the exact same size as france.

So you just gonna ignore the fact when things are given sizes theyre the same size as the irl counterpart? That leading credence to the fact that the things that are basically the same things just with a different name, happen to also be the same size?

 

[Chariot190]

>you're comparing 1:1 references to mountains and routes to the size of an entire region, you see where this comparison doesn't make sense right?

Uh, youre joking right? We dont need an exact 1:1 map given the exact amount of cms of each and every single blade of grass in the region dude. Use your head, this doesnt requite mental gymnastics to figure out what the intention of the developers were or the fact that they gave us examples of it being the same multiple times, implying that, the rest is too.

The regions are based off actual things, said things when given a size tend to be even 1:1 with the real counterpart, there isnt any example that I can think of when a size isnt the same and in some cases, are literally the exact same as the actual counterpart, see kanto. Not withstanding the first 4 regions, of which Sinnoh is apart of is literally japan.

 

[Lavcore]

calc hoenn as it appears in ORAS and tell me it's the exact same size as kyushu: Agai just because something is based on something else doesn't make it the exact same size as that which it is based o having a mountain or two being the same size as a mountain in the place it is based on doesn't mean everything else in the region which is based on something is the exact same size.

 

[Chariot190]

Oh you mean calc the thing that is confirmed to not be the size it appears to be due to game and technological limitations? The route in kalos is stated to be over 6km long with millions of stone pillars, yet doesnt appear that big in game because literally impossible. Or the fact Mt. Chimney is stated to be 5000~ feet tall just about yet in game it's uh, idk 100 feet? I'll tell you it's the exact same size as Kyushuu without doing something as stupid as pixel scaling something that is confirmed not to be how large it is in canon.

 

[Chariot190]

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pokémon_world_in_relation_to_the_real_world Hell have fun.

 

[Lavcore]

"This article contains fa speculation. There is no solid evidence for or against some parts of this article."

 

[Chariot190]

Which is fancy talk for Not all of this is officially confirmed but everything correlates to a real world location that we can pinpoint despite no official word on some of these cases. No offense, but you're being ridiculous. In fact I'd say what you're asking is outright stupid, you want every single thing to be confirmed 1:1, even though we have canon examples, of things being 1:1 with no contradictions on anything else on top of official confirmation that theyre supposed to be the pokemon world's versions of said locations, use your head.

 

[Lavcore]

i don't want every single thing to be confirmed 1:1 i want confirmation that there has ever been at least one statement that a region is the exact same size as the thing it is based on of which such statements don't exist.

 

[Chariot190]

Except if all you want is confirmation that a region is the same size, there's kanto. Which is, literally just the actual kanto.

 

[Lavcore]

i'm gonna take a break from the wiki considering it's christmas eve but i'm asking for a statement not an assumption was there ever a statement that kanto is the exact same size as the real kanto? comparable in size is one thing, exactly the same size is another.