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The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"

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Since the 1A standards are done but not yet on the Tiering system, can threads be made on verses who it affects now?
 
magi will be w good litmus test for this new system. I don’t think it will pass for R>F in the new standard despite having it currently. But the size differences between levels will allow it to still be 1-B
 
magi will be w good litmus test for this new system. I don’t think it will pass for R>F in the new standard despite having it currently. But the size differences between levels will allow it to still be 1-B
I plan on refuting any thread that does, since Magi R>F does not fit the standards for the new tiering system
Actually, while we are still kind of on the topic, why do you think it doesn't qualify? Is it because Sinbad/Ugo/David are technically staying within the same layer of reality as the rest of the cast and the fact that the sacred palace is "just" a magic tool? Or am I missing something more critical here?
 
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Actually, while we are still kind of on the topic, why do you think it doesn't qualify? Is it because Sinbad/Ugo/David are technically speaking within the same layer of reality as the rest of the cast and the fact that the sacred palace is "just" a magic tool? Or am I missing something more critical here?
Yes and also based on the standards, fiction must never interact with reality
 
Actually, while we are still kind of on the topic, why do you think it doesn't qualify? Is it because Sinbad/Ugo/David are technically staying within the same layer of reality as the rest of the cast and the fact that the sacred palace is "just" a magic tool? Or am I missing something more critical here?
Yes, and also the fact the lower order worlds physically exist in the higher worlds, but just tiny.
 
I don’t really see the point in trying to use real world philosophy to argue for tier 0, when philosophy adheres to the paremeters of the real world. If we lived in a world where magic was real, human philosophy’s take on omnipotence will be entirely different.
 
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