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Perhaps the speed of lightning in Bleach is slower than Mach 500.
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Perhaps Gin was lying about Mach 500... like when he said he lied... lol I'm just gonna assume he's making a joke here ^Perhaps the speed of lightning in Bleach is slower than Mach 500.
Have you rolled out that Gin’s bankai follows this same formula? Gin could be moving at LS from Hisagi’s negacion light feat while his sword contraction can be mach 500 on top of his LS body movement. A thing to be considered.Where is it that they're faster than his Bankai's attack speed?
They can be faster than Chojiro's Shunpo speed without necessarily being faster than his Bankai.
@Damage3245 and yama and aizen in fkt should be scaled to unohanas speed as aizen only feared yamamoto thereyammy was constantly spamming balas so he should be faster than the balas to switch
I don't really care to push the point further, but Gin specifically says "it doesn't extend as fast as I said" which the only time he says how fast it extends is when he says Mach 500, since saying "fastest" does not tell us how fast it is directly.@Arc7Kuroi; Gin also said that his Bankai was Mach 500 at the same time that he said it was the fastest Zanpakuto.
If you're arguing that it is unlikely that Gin would have told Aizen a different figure because he'd be blowing his cover by only lying to Aizen and not to Ichigo, then why would he also claim that his supposedly Mach 500 Bankai is the fastest if he's supposed to know that it isn't?
Also - while Chojirou's Bankai does shoot lightning, the speed of lightning can vary IRL. For the wiki's purpose we assume a certain figure for lightning speeds but that shouldn't be used as proof in the verse itself.
I might be wrong, but I believe Bazz's High 6-B comes from fighting post-Royal Guard training Renji off-screen, at least, that's the only thing I can think of.By the way, this is unrelated to speed but I noticed that Bazz-B scales to Large Country level for scaling to Yama, but Yama in Shikai scales to Country level.
@USklaverei; I think you were the one who changed him to High 6-B instead of 6-B.
Yeah you're right, that was Bankai Renji and Vollstandig Bazz, so nevermind.@Purgy; I can see what you mean with that, but Bazz-B is scaling to Continent level for that apparently.
This is disingenuous.@Arc7Kuroi; "like lightning" is an extremely common hyperbole. There aren't any supporting feats for it from Ichigo at that time, nor from anybody else in the verse.
Why would it?why doesn't ichigo's perception scale to uryu's?
cuz uryu's brain managed to process that speed and ichigo isn't lower than uryu he should also be able to perceive things that fastWhy would it?
Uryu claims to be able to manage it because of his sensitivity to Spiritual Pressure. Ichigo isn't necessarily at the same level as him even if he does have faster combat speed.cuz uryu's brain managed to process that speed and ichigo isn't lower than uryu he should also be able to perceive things that fast
He could not injure him properly, while byakuya can even kill him.@Tyri456; Ichigo wasn't really having any issue with keeping up with Yammy until he failed to activate his mask.
Sure, but that's conflating AP with Speed.He could not injure him properly, while byakuya can even kill him.
Those are exception because are stated to be so, Though.Sure, but that's conflating AP with Speed.
That's like arguing Zommari must have the highest AP out of the Espada if he has the highest speed.
The supporting evidence is that Byakuya only felt that he could comfortably hit Ichigo with a lightning based kido if he pinned Ichigo in place and then fired it off at point blank range. This proves that Byakuya, after fighting Ichigo, feels that lightning based kido aren't guaranteed to hit him unless he is somewhat immobilized. This I believe is the strongest piece of evidence as it relies the least on assumptions made in calcs.@Arc7Kuroi; we don't take databook as gospel truth. We treat it case by case and in this case, there needs to be supporting evidence.
The same "like lightning" or "lightning-fast" statements have been thrown out for other series such as Naruto.
The attack is called Pale Lightning. Give me a good reason to assume it isn't lightning-based.@Arc7Kuroi; You know that particualr Kido has never been described as possessing lightning speed, right? Or the qualities of lightning. It's just the name of it. The databook description for it just describes it as "Gathers high-density spiritual energy at the fingertip and discharges it all at once."