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Then anime Ichigo is slower than manga Ichigo. What's your point?the anime supports our point of view
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Then anime Ichigo is slower than manga Ichigo. What's your point?the anime supports our point of view
I address and debunked the notion of cleaving through multiple layers loads of times already, so that's fine idrc. You conceded on the point we were arguing.And how he swatted away every petal is where we disagree, indeed.
I didn't but ok.I address and debunked the notion of cleaving through multiple layers loads of times already, so that's fine idrc. You conceded on the point we were arguing.
You did, if you want to continuously get clapped dm me for my discord.I didn't but ok.
Site policy: When a feat is hard to analyze from the manga, we take the anime version as long as it is not contradictory to the source material.Also, since when did the anime become higher priority evidence than the manga?
Damage is arguing a hypothetical is more probable than what we are shown, and now that anime > manga for continuity. I can't believe my eyes.
Nice comment.You did, if you want to continuously get clapped dm me for my discord.
It's contradictory to the source material.as long as it is not contradictory to the source material.
I updated the sandbox to take into consideration that Ichigo was defending 360 degrees.Arc. Can you make 1 final calc ?
This time use angle to be 360 and rather than using just the length of sword use three different length. Like Sword + 2 mter and sword +5 meter and sword + 10 meter.
Except the piece of evidence of you use to show he "can't" is also shown in the anime.It's contradictory to the source material.
We are shown Ichigo cannot cleave through multiple layers.
Is this guy trolling?Except the piece of evidence of you use to show he "can't" is also shown in the anime.
Now the source contradict itself?
Are you serious or what?Except the piece of evidence of you use to show he "can't" is also shown in the anime.
Now the source contradict itself?
Pretty much since the later feat is seemingly anime only. I don’t see the problem.Except the piece of evidence of you use to show he "can't" is also shown in the anime.
Now the source contradict itself?
How do I access it ?
The source material is the manga btw, reading through your earlier comments, you refer to the anime as the source.Site policy: When a feat is hard to analyze from the manga, we take the anime version as long as it is not contradictory to the source material.
Based.Did we all give the same response at the same time?
Believe what you want. I already said my piece in this.He is trolling from the start.
Is this calc for Bankai Ichigo and those who scale to or above only? And what would Shikai Ichigo scale to if this is accepted?USklaverei/sandbox
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Bad grammar on my part.The source material is the manga btw, reading through your earlier comments, you refer to the anime as the source.
The reason it is contradictory is because in the manga we are shown just that Ichigo can't cut through layers, while in the anime he both can and cannot.Believe what you want. I already said my piece in this.
For those of you that did not understand:
The anime depicts the fight and includes "the evidence" that Ichigo "can't" cut through multiple layers at once.
But when showing the scene from the feat, it shows he does precisely that. Thus, there isn't really a contradiction between the mediums. Everything place exactly like in the manga.
Well knowing that Bankai is a 5-10x multiplier, Shikai Ichigo would be at least 10x slower, likely only 5x slower since Ichigo hasn't mastered Bankai. Anyone who upscales Bankai Ichigo/Base Grimmjow, would upscale from this.Is this calc for Bankai Ichigo and those who scale to or above only? And what would Shikai Ichigo scale to if this is accepted?
I don't see why the petals durability would suddenly change when he shifts to the offensive.In all fairness, using the petals defensively is probably different than offensively
It's contradictory to you because you have a set interpretation about the feat. The anime disagrees, and as the other medium which can show light to the issue, we usually go with it. Or rather, that's the site policy, I admit sometimes we don't even follow it, lol.The reason it is contradictory is because in the manga we are shown just that Ichigo can't cut through layers, while in the anime he both can and cannot.
I agree with this, btw. Nothing indicates it changes.I don't see why the petals durability would suddenly change when he shifts to the offensive.
I'm actually not interpreting anything here.It's contradictory to you because you have a set interpretation about the feat. The anime disagrees, and as the other medium which can show light to the issue, we usually go with it. Or rather, that's the site policy, I admit sometimes we don't even follow it, lol.
Agreed.@Arc7Kuroi; I think you're confusing does not with cannot.
Ichigo failing to breach Byakuya's defenses does not mean he cannot do it at a later point.
As the manga never displays he can, for you to claim that he can would require you to provide evidence for that.@Arc7Kuroi; I think you're confusing does not with cannot.
Ichigo failing to breach Byakuya's defenses does not mean he cannot do it at a later point.
So between High Hypersonic (Mach 38.4), High Hypersonic+ (Mach 64), or MHS ( Mach 102.8) for Shikai Ichigo depending on which end is used and if this calc is accepted?Well knowing that Bankai is a 5-10x multiplier, Shikai Ichigo would be at least 10x slower, likely only 5x slower since Ichigo hasn't mastered Bankai. Anyone who upscales Bankai Ichigo/Base Grimmjow, would upscale from this.
As the manga never displays he can, for you to claim that he can would require you to provide evidence for that.
It doesn't. Not like he destroyed them in either scenario. He deflected them. I like to tink of it like water or sand. It can be both hard and soft, depending on the situation. If you smack it real hard, it'll hurt. If I however throw it at you, even if you put your hand out to block it, it'll find a way to hit you regardless. Which is also why I earlier said that it doesn't matter how he deflected it, his reaction speed should still scale, since he still had to be aware of all of them.I don't see why the petals durability would suddenly change when he shifts to the offensive.
Basically, assuming middle ground Shikai Ichigo would be Mach 64 being that we have Ichigo's Bankai multiplier at 5x.So between High Hypersonic (Mach 38.4), High Hypersonic+ (Mach 64), or MHS ( Mach 102.8) for Shikai Ichigo depending on which end is used and if this calc is accepted?