- 1,885
- 475
Well, regardless of the calc, he still had to be aware of all of them at all times. Well, either that or he is insanely lucky that not even one got through.
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Which is funny, it's literally what Byakuya thought lmaoArc7
Then it would be neverending, because Byakuya can just keep bombarding him. The feat would be impossible.
It is not an assumptionThat's just an assumption. There is no written law stating Ichigo cannot physically do that.
It's literally shown in the page prior to the feat, that Ichigo CANNOT cleave through multiple layers, reread the chapter.That's just an assumption. There is no written law stating Ichigo cannot physically do that.
Ichigo is faster than the petals, but the petals are faster than the petals that had their momentum stopped, it's rather simple.If these petals are somehow fine-tuned enough to weave out of the way of Ichigo's sword that has petals on it... how did Ichigo manage to hit any of them in the first place? Wouldn't they just move around his sword?
No as soon as Ichigo deflects a petal, the petal stops attacking. Because going by that logic, regardless of the scenario they'd infinitely bombard, since by your logic if a petal gets ricocheted off another petal it would still continue attacking. So, not a valid argument.Then it would be neverending, because Byakuya can just keep bombarding him.
Going by this logic, REGARDLESS of how Ichigo deflects the petals they'd infinitely attack. It's rather SIMPLE the petals stopped attacking after they were deflected.Arc7
But Byakuya controls the petals?
Why would he stop attacking because Ichigo touched one?
because that's what happend?Arc7
But Byakuya controls the petals?
Why would he stop attacking because Ichigo touched one?
That literally doesn't make a difference to what happened tho. He only realized it after it happened. How he did it doesn't make a difference.RatherClueless
They stopped because Ichigo pushed *all of them* away and Byakuya thought it impossible. If Ichigo just pushes layer by layer, Byakuya just keeps bombarding.
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They stopped because Ichigo pushed *all of them* away and Byakuya thought it impossible. If Ichigo just pushes layer by layer, Byakuya just keeps bombarding.
If you guys can find me a statement or other instance that the petals just... Stop... Functioning when being "pushed away"/ricocheted into others, maybe I can concede.If you guys can find me a statement or other instance that the petals just... Stop... Functioning when being deflected, maybe I can concede.
Btw, Tyri, I saw that post. Glad to see you agreed with me. ovo
So you are saying Ichigo could blitz Byakuya but didn't at any point just blitzed into submission?That literally doesn't make a difference to what happened tho. He only realized it after it happened. How he did it doesn't make a difference.
It doesn't matter whether you concede or not, since this point is completely irrelevant to the validity of the feat in question.If you guys can find me a statement or other instance that the petals just... Stop... Functioning when being deflected, maybe I can concede.
Btw, Tyri, I saw that post. Glad to see you agreed with me. ovo
You know Ichigo did blitz Byakuya at first, but then backed off just to flex... have you perhaps not read chapter 163 in a while?So you are saying Ichigo could blitz Byakuya but didn't at any point just blitzed into submission?
Not at all.It doesn't matter whether you concede or not, since this point is completely irrelevant to the validity of the feat in question.
Byakuya catched his sword and reacted throught out the fight though?You know Ichigo did blitz Byakuya at first, but then backed off just to flex... have you perhaps not read chapter 163 in a while?
Ichigo can blitz Byakuya, he does it in the fight lmao. Hell even a fatigued Ichigo dodged a point blank thrust.
The petals fall away and the remaining attacking petals press forwards. What is so hard to understand?I'm supporting Damage's interpretation with simple logic. Where the petals go when Ichigo starts swatting them? The cannot pass through the one's at the back, so what happened there?
So suddenly Byakuya can't control those? Why?The petals fall away and the remaining attacking petals press forwards. What is so hard to understand?
I'm going to link you a scan buddy.Byakuya catched his sword and reacted throught out the fight though?
Never said that. You do realize I can use this same argument against damage's or literally any other interpretation of the feat. It's not valid.So suddenly Byakuya can't control those? Why?
Proceeds to block a strike witj senbonzakura, proceeded to catch Ichigo's blade.I'm going to link you a scan buddy.
https://***********.com/read-online/Bleach-chapter-163.html
First two pages, you tell me what Ichigo did.
Ichigo could literally smooch Byakuya and Byakuya wouldn't know what hit him.
You know Ichigo wasn't going as fast in those instances right, he verbatim says "I can go faster"Proceeds to block a strike witj senbonzakura, proceeded to catch Ichigo's blade.
Because people disagree with you? Ok then.This reminds me why I usually don't even touch anything HST related, even with a 6ft pole.
And Ichigo sped up when Byakuya caught the blade, yes.You know Ichigo wasn't going as fast in those instances right, he verbatim says "I can go faster"
So what's your point? Byakuya can react to a nerfed, slower Ichigo? No shit.
There's no indication Ichigo was going at max speed when Byakuya caught his blade. Also, you are seemingly unaware that Ichigo was getting slower as the fight progressed due to not being able to withstand his own spiritual pressure.And Ichigo sped up when Byakuya caught the blade, yes.
Ichigo is faster than the petals, Byakuya states "my Senbon can't keep up">Ichigo deflects all petals with multiple swings
>Ichigo isn't faster than the petals, since that would mean he can blitz
>He had to hit them all at once, otherwise they keep attacking
I don't see any isues with this train of logic
When did I say Ichigo isn't faster than the petals?>Ichigo deflects all petals with multiple swings
>Ichigo isn't faster than the petals, since that would mean he can blitz
>He had to hit them all at once, otherwise they keep attacking
I don't see any isues with this train of logic
Dude . . .Ichigo is faster than the petals, Byakuya states "my Senbon can't keep up"
Mighty bold of you to talk shit when you don't understand what's going on in the fight at all.Now I see why you don't come to these threads. ovo
Lmao I'm on edge man cut me some slack.Dude . . .
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Totally necessary comment. It helps your argument.Mighty bold of you to talk shit when you don't understand what's going on in the fight at all.
You literally said Ichigo isn't fast enough to blitz. I might have to re read, but aren't his petals as fast, if not faster than himself? By that logic Ichigo can't be much faster than the petals, since he'd blitz otherwise, which you said he can't.When did I say Ichigo isn't faster than the petals?
What I said is Byakuya can keep launching more petals if Ichigo goes layer by layer. Now I see why you don't come to these threads. ovo
That's what I said, correct. The act of Ichigo "managing the impossible" made him do a double take.So the reason why the petals stopped is not only because Ichigo swatted them. It was because Ichigo swatted all of them that it shocked byakuya because he saw Ichigo do something impossible. Therefore he stopped for a moment.
The impossible here isn't keeping up with the petals' speed. It's swatting every petal away. If you read the next couple words after the word "impossible" you'd understand that. Byakuya verbatim states "my Senbon cannot keep up with Ichigo"That's what I said, correct. The act of Ichigo "managing the impossible" made him do a double take.
Trust me, there is worseWow at this point the feat has been deeply analyzed to the tiniest details. To their motives, narratives even the reasons behind the course of action they choose. Its my first time seeing a feat getting so deeply analyzed.
Go to a Zelda or Pokémon thread. ovoWow at this point the feat has been deeply analyzed to the tiniest details. To their motives, narratives even the reasons behind the course of action they choose. Its my first time seeing a feat getting so deeply analyzed.
And how he swatted away every petal is where we disagree, indeed.The impossible here isn't keeping up with the petals' speed. It's swatting every petal away. If you read the next couple words after the word "impossible" you'd understand that. Byakuya verbatim states "my Senbon cannot keep up with Ichigo"