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The Beast vs The Dragonborn
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Excuse me, what? No god protects Dovahkiin. Or Daedric Prince. Lord's Mail is non-canon as well. For that matter, no Creation Club equipment and stuff is canon, despite being official. They're essentially Bethesda approved mods.
You have to take that issue with Matthew when you arrogantly claim things canon or not. All artifacts as extensions of gods, upon being wore by chosen ones, mean an automatic protection and shrouding. Why I have to waste times with this argument? Dovahkiin can stay out of 4km range and use Auriel's Bow to decimate the guy.
You have to take that issue with Matthew when you arrogantly claim things canon or not. All artifacts as extensions of gods, upon being wore by chosen ones, mean an automatic protection and shrouding. Why I have to waste times with this argument? Dovahkiin can stay out of 4km range and use Auriel's Bow to decimate the guy.
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Lots of stuff in creation club is canon, it's just wether the Dovahkiin has access to them which could be questioned.
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Creation Club stuff may exist in lore. But they're still mods for Skyrim. And I believe Matthew or Ultima already told you this.
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Even ignoring basically all of Beasts Hax including his main gimmick with the Ray Sphere Blast, his sheer AP and AOE alone make it impossible for Dovakiin to survive unless he has very great regen or protection
He also has no character or leading move, so the wrong move that doesn't beat Beasts regen fails him and gets him killed
He also has no character or leading move, so the wrong move that doesn't beat Beasts regen fails him and gets him killed
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Everything you ever do and acquired officially is canon. Still, Auriel's Bow blitzing The Beast. I still have the Ebony Mail and Spellbreaker that can both prevent the casting of spells and absorption of energy. Again, Auriel's Bow!
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Lord Mail is canon but the Dovahkiin doesn't have it. Even without it tho, the Dovahkiin has a shit ton of artifacts and spells to prevent him from the explosion. And for the radiation as someone said, if you think the flesh spells are only flesh in name think again.
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But the blast still obliterates via AP, so Beast still wins.
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Someone tell me what Dovakiin leads with
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Look up
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I saw that he had Auroeks bow, no proof he uses it instantly
I also noticed "Can stay out of 4KM" when the Beast has planetary range
I also noticed "Can stay out of 4KM" when the Beast has planetary range
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They are both locked at 6-A. No planetary range allowed
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Did you just blatantly lie? The Beast has no planetary range
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1. It is actually, tier and range are two different things
2. Many High 6A characters naturally have planetary range as nuking the planet is a High 6A feat
3. 6A range is still far too much range for Dovakiin to avoid
2. Many High 6A characters naturally have planetary range as nuking the planet is a High 6A feat
3. 6A range is still far too much range for Dovakiin to avoid
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Well from what I read on his profile there are two Beasts the first one has the explosion and the other one has the ray. And on both of these Spell Breaker and the Become Ethereal shout should be more than enough to survive them.
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They are both in the same attack
The explosion is over 200x stronger then his Durability, he will not survive
The explosion is over 200x stronger then his Durability, he will not survive
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Dovahkiin also has 6-A range as well. However, he had artifacts and magic to resist the blasts. Again, all of his abilities ignore conventional durability and laws. Your image of him getting irradiated or anything similar does not apply since his power defies reality itself. As ogbunabali put, he has shit tons of ways to tank your beast boi or evade it. Dovahkiin tanked a reality breaking blast that shakes the continent, so he had experience against this sort of things before
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Ignoring Durability does not mean beating regen, it allows you to destroy his body but he can regenerate his body easily
The blast Beast makes is over 200x stronger then said blast, Dovakiin cannot survive it
Does he have protection from a 1C diety or what?
The blast Beast makes is over 200x stronger then said blast, Dovakiin cannot survive it
Does he have protection from a 1C diety or what?
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Not exactly.
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Okay
So what exactly can the dragonborn do to beat his regen and what does he lead with
So what exactly can the dragonborn do to beat his regen and what does he lead with
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The blast is 6-A in tier while Dovahkiin tanked a similar one that breaks reality. Dovahkiin artifacts and magic can literally command reality to make the blast as harmless cotton candy. The easier way is for Dovahkiin using Become Ethereal, then walking towards the Beast to use Wabbajack or send him to Oblivion. Ignore conventional laws mean things don't work in our conventional understanding like reality warping
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The deities sponsor him but don't actually actively protect him unless they have some business with Dovah.
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He can use artefacts like the Wabbajack for reality warping transmutation, or use an alteration spell to turn the Beast into a cow. Or bypass durability and cut the Beast's very existence with Mehrunes' Razor. And use the "Become Ethereal" Shout to become an intangible being of void. Also stop time.Schnee One said:
The Dovahkiin is plenty haxed.
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Well from what I can see the Ray Sphere is plasma based making it completely null by Spell Breaker.
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Dovakiin is 13 PettatonsKongKing23 said:
Beast is 2 Exatons casually and while not in his prime. The AP difference is huge.
Does he lead with them and what proof is there he has done so.
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@Matt Hmm I see
What does he lead with?
What does he lead with?
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Matthew basically answers all my points. Dovah just outpaced the Beast at hax
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Will not matter if he gets one shotted
So what Hax does he start with
So what Hax does he start with
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Dovah is an RPG main character. In a game that doesn't have cutscenes. So he could start with anything really.
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Physically blasting a character outside of existence. Only in VS battles wikia
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What ability lets you BFR to Oblivion? I don't recall it.
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I asked one questionKongKing23 said:
Just one question on what he lead with
Just why.
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Considering the dovahkin has no leading move and has so many different moves he could start with I find it alot harder to make a case for him starting out with whatever beats the beast than saying the beast rsbs
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It is an Out of Game spatial manipulation that mook mages used to travel for Oblivion. It's no coherent ability but a type of art practiced by mages everywhere. I don't need to use that argument since I already got all artifacts to outhax the opponentTacticalNuke002 said:
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What he starts with is hard to say exactly, but he would probably start with the Thu'um, Stop Time most likely. And considering he has Spell Breaker at this point, arguably the most powerful shield in the verse, he probably has that on his hand that he can raise if the Beast uses the ray, which the shield renders completly useless.
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I asked one question
Just one question on what he lead with
Just why.
Just read Matthew post
Just one question on what he lead with
Just why.
Just read Matthew post
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I did
He answered what he had, not with what was in character
He answered what he had, not with what was in character
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Can the sheild block 2 exaton attacks?Ogbunabali said:
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It can render the whole plasma released form the Ray Sphere useless.
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The Spellbreaker is a daedric artefact that nulls magical attacks. I'll assume it can. Also, it was used to fight against Archmage Shalidor. Shalidor is one of the greatest mages who ever lived with a knowledge of the arcane few can boast. This places him above most Psijic Order mages who have feats ranging from low 2-C to low 1-C.
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