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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 6

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So many updates today, vol 5 is out, asain updated the wn side story, re zero ex 3 is out and a bunch of other series i read updated.

I got so much to read. Focusing on slime but probably won't be done with vol 6 until tomorrow.
 
Either the LN translator ****** up or they changed the ranking names because the written description for Veldora lists him as a Calamity class which is only above Hazard when it should be Catastrophe. Other than that... I really think that everyone involved got a substantial buff in a lot of ways.
 

There are in total six persons including Guy, apart from the Titan and the fairy, the remaining four all have awakened.
So it finally got confirmed once and for all that among generation 1+2 the True Demon Lords are Guy, Milim, Ramiris and Dino.

Doomrider7 said:
Either the LN translator ****** up or they changed the ranking names because the written description for Veldora lists him as a Calamity class which is only above Hazard when it should be Catastrophe. Other than that... I really think that everyone involved got a substantial buff in a lot of ways.
Wouldn't be the first time. I already recorded the Kanji for the different threat-levels that I took from the RAW version of LN vol. 3 and can check what you mentioned here later - alongside some other strange things like everyone having Storm Crest instead of Tempest Crest (only Rimuru is supposed to have that, since everyone aside from him was named using both Rimuru's and Veldora's "mixture" of magicules), as well as whether it's really just Resist Physical Attack or if it's Cancel Physical Attack.

It's not a surprise though. They already messed up with Rimuru's status screen in LN vol. 2. I'll keep all the mistakes from LN vol. 2, and probably sometime later LN vol. 5 too, in my blog once I have time for that.
 
I think LN Vol 5 you are all can skip it if you want, there is no big difference between Vol 5 and WN, while vol 6 they add more battle and character introduction, like adalman and Kumara, and Milim vs Rimuru etc
 
The otherworlders weren't a thing in the wn, and the feats in vol 5 are gonna lead to some upgrades, also other slight differences, disintegration being near light speed, not light speed.

Also more info about the soul, spirit etc, also chaos eater destroys the spirit, there is a lot to go over and i haven't even finished vol 5 yet.
 

By the way, when I hand in my first draft, here are I-san's thoughts:
ÒÇîXX scene seems to have been cut, what happened there?ÒÇì
ÒÇîNo, it's just that the pages involved are too many so I had to cut it out!ÒÇì
ÒÇîNo way you are serious about that?! We have to leave that scene in!ÒÇì
ÒÇîNo, but, the rest of the content is not easily cut to fit it in…...ÒÇì
ÒÇîSeriously, don't worry over the cuts! Just write it. You can write as much as《Slime》 if you want.ÒÇì
This is a conversation we had. In the end when I finished the first draft, the content has increased the most since I started with an addition of around ten thousand words. Due to the double line typesetting, it's rumored to be the light novel with the most words from GC series. And even the page number has jumped to number one.
ÒÇîNow we've made a new record!ÒÇì
Editor I-san says so. How ambitious is his?
~ LN vol. 6 Author's Afterword​
Come one Fuse. You couldn't lay it on any thicker than that. Might as well just openly state that Slime is THE Flaship LN project of GC Novels/Micro Magazine. I mean if the editor tells you "write however much you want and we'll print it!" then you might as well be in control over your publisher. I guess that's the upside of being part of a smaller publisher.

Not to mention this madman of an author created the most commercially successful manga adaptation of a Light Novel, becoming a big-shot author even for a huge publisher like Kodansha!
 
"I feel like a member of the Illuminati manipulating the events of the world... But it's okay since I am a Demon Lord after all"

- Rimuru Tempest (LN6)
 
Finished vol 5.

It's good we finally got confirmation that, pre-demon lord class, A+ rank, calamity class, Special A rank, all mean the same thing.
 
The publisher Micro Magazine is apparently a very small publishing house and they basically scored the "One Piece" of the LN world in terms of sales and merchandising. So yeah, the control over his publisher thing is dead on.
 
Celestial Pegasus said:
Finished vol 5.
It's good we finally got confirmation that, pre-demon lord class, A+ rank, calamity class, Special A rank, all mean the same thing.
This case with this many synonymous terms examplify why less it here
 
They really messed up with the LN vol. 5 status screens there...

  • Cancel Pain: þùøÞªÜþäíÕè╣
    • He already had "cancel pain" long ago, no idea why YenPress suddenly decides to translate it as "resist pain"
  • Cancel Physical Attack: þë®þÉåµö╗µÆâþäíÕè╣
    • Rimuru got an upgrade here, yet for some reason YenPress insist on keep it as "resist physical attack" instead of "cancel physical attack"
  • Cancel Natural Elements/Effects: Þç¬þäÂÕ¢▒Úƒ┐þäíÕè╣
  • Cancel Ailments/Abnormal Condition: þèµàïþò░Õ©©þäíÕè╣
  • Resist Spiritual/Mental Attack: þ▓¥þÑ×µö╗µÆâÞÇɵǺ
  • Resist Holy Magic(?) Attack/Holy-Demonic(?) Attack: ÞüûÚ¡öµö╗µÆâÞÇɵǺ
    • I think this is actually supposed to be "resist holy-demonic attack" but I am not sure - both YenPress LN TL and the WN FanTL translated it as "holy attack resistance" though, but it just seems weird to single out holy-element "magic" like this - if it was all about the holy element, wouldn't Þüûµö╗µÆâÞÇɵǺ be better? Considering how Rimuru's Evolution turned Beretta into a Chaos Doll that's resistant to both holy and demonic attack, I think interpreting ÞüûÚ¡öµö╗µÆâÞÇɵǺ as "resist holy-demonic attack" or "Resist holy and demonic attack" would be more appropiate.
Furthermore I checked and confirmed that Rimuru is the only one supposed to have "Crest of the Storm", while everyone else's page (aside from Veldora) should have "Crest of Tempest" or "Tempest Crest" instead.

And I also checked on Veldora's threat level in his status screen - calling it calamity is indeed a mistranslation. The RAW says Õñ®þü¢þ┤Ü there which has been established in LN vol. 3 (RAWs) to be refering to "Catastrophe Class".
 
Definitly LN. I mean just compare how Clayman is portrayed in WN and how he is portrayed in LN. In WN he is essentially just a cocky, overconfident two-dimensional comic-book villain who did nothing but spouting cliché lines. In the LN he receives a lot of proper characterisation and his connection to the moderate troupe, Kazaream and Yuuki is much more elaborated upon. There is even foreshadowing that someone completely unknown, other than Kazaream and Yuuki and the troupe, has been manipulating Clayman unknowingly. I am refering to the scene where Laplace asks him "this plan really comes from you and not someone else?"

Rimuru is also shown to be much more careful about revealing his powers (or rather the fact that Gazel is advising him to do that, unlike the WN). IIRC in his "fight" against Milim he did not really use the Spatial Hax he got from Vow/Convenant Lord Uriel. I think between his battle with Milim and his battle with Clayman, the Demon Lords by now most certainly should know that Rimuru is an "awakened" Demon Lord (he didn't really seem to tried to hide that from them anyway), but they only saw Gluttonous Lord in action - and perhaps they might deduce the fact that Veldora manifested as a Ultimate Skill within Rimuru, but Uriel and Raphael should have been successfully hidden from the Demon Lords, aside from Milim maybe just for being aware of the before&after of his capabilities unlike everyone else, so she might have notice Raphael - not like she'd ever sell out her BFF. The general public? And further-away countries? Rimuru made them believe that he is just a Demon Lord Seed. That's a good reason for the western council and that idiotic prince to be underestimating Rimuru personally later on if that still happens, unlike the WN where it seemed just stupid instead.

I am not sure whether or not Veldora misremembering Ruminas is a good or bad thing. Imagine the commotion that could have happened had her true name been revealed to Rimuru. Based on the side-stories she probably wouldn't try to go after Rimuru himself due to his connection with Chloe, but it might have been a different matter if Rimuru had been aware that she has the same name as the western church's god. Will have to wait for vol. 7+, since appearently that's where things really start diverging plot-wise, e.g. Hinata supposedly isn't brainwashed by Yuuki but gets tricked by the church into believing that Rimuru wants her head or so I heard (the side-stories also corrobarate this).
 
Is it me, or are some things in the WN very hard to understand, unnecessary, and not to mention hard to read since most site's have it all cluttered together with big paragraphs with hardly correct spelling and grammar?

I'm around EoS WN and I have no idea what the Dragon Core is.
 
Milly Rocking Bandit said:
Is it me, or are some things in the WN very hard to understand, unnecessary, and not to mention hard to read since most site's have it all cluttered together with big paragraphs with hardly correct spelling and grammar?
I'm around EoS WN and I have no idea what the Dragon Core is.
Most people from other wiki don't used tabbers for Powers and abilities; I think this wiki is the only one where people does it.

Dragon Core is like the soul of a dragon.
 
Milly Rocking Bandit said:
So everyone else has Nucleic Hearts, but True Dragons have Dragon Cores?
I am not sure in the LN but in WN, many terms were synonymous to soul of something like Dragon Cores to Soul of a dragon, from my view.
 
NeoSuperior said:
They really messed up with the LN vol. 5 status screens there...
Was gonna comment on it yesterday but forgot. Basically he got "Chaos Chore" from Beretta by way of "Food Chain" and "Skill Adjust" basically giving his resistance to both Holy and Dark attributes.
 
English translated LN (including the fanTL) is at LN volume 6, which is just right up until Walpurgis Banquet and ends with the Demon Lord organisation's name to be changed to "Octagram Demon Lords". There's also an epilogue where Laplace kills Rumina's substitute, a development that didn't exist in the WN (in the first place Laplace didn't even appear until the last arc in the WN, but in LN he already appears in Orc Disaster arc).

Japanese RAW LN are at LN volume 14, which is right after Eastern Empire cut the connection between Rimuru and Veldora (and in the LN that was planned by the Empire on purpose, not a coincidence like in the WN). The volume ends with Rimuru enraged vowing that he will no longer care about things like "hiding his power from the enemy" or collateral damage.
 
NeoSuperior said:
Definitly LN. I mean just compare how Clayman is portrayed in WN and how he is portrayed in LN. In WN he is essentially just a cocky, overconfident two-dimensional comic-book villain who did nothing but spouting cliché lines. In the LN he receives a lot of proper characterisation and his connection to the moderate troupe, Kazaream and Yuuki is much more elaborated upon. There is even foreshadowing that someone completely unknown, other than Kazaream and Yuuki and the troupe, has been manipulating Clayman unknowingly. I am refering to the scene where Laplace asks him "this plan really comes from you and not someone else?"

Rimuru is also shown to be much more careful about revealing his powers (or rather the fact that Gazel is advising him to do that, unlike the WN). IIRC in his "fight" against Milim he did not really use the Spatial Hax he got from Vow/Convenant Lord Uriel. I think between his battle with Milim and his battle with Clayman, the Demon Lords by now most certainly should know that Rimuru is an "awakened" Demon Lord (he didn't really seem to tried to hide that from them anyway), but they only saw Gluttonous Lord in action - and perhaps they might deduce the fact that Veldora manifested as a Ultimate Skill within Rimuru, but Uriel and Raphael should have been successfully hidden from the Demon Lords, aside from Milim maybe just for being aware of the before&after of his capabilities unlike everyone else, so she might have notice Raphael - not like she'd ever sell out her BFF. The general public? And further-away countries? Rimuru made them believe that he is just a Demon Lord Seed. That's a good reason for the western council and that idiotic prince to be underestimating Rimuru personally later on if that still happens, unlike the WN where it seemed just stupid instead.

I am not sure whether or not Veldora misremembering Ruminas is a good or bad thing. Imagine the commotion that could have happened had her true name been revealed to Rimuru. Based on the side-stories she probably wouldn't try to go after Rimuru himself due to his connection with Chloe, but it might have been a different matter if Rimuru had been aware that she has the same name as the western church's god. Will have to wait for vol. 7+, since appearently that's where things really start diverging plot-wise, e.g. Hinata supposedly isn't brainwashed by Yuuki but gets tricked by the church into believing that Rimuru wants her head or so I heard (the side-stories also corrobarate this).
That part with Laplace struck me as well. There was also another scene after Laplace leaves where Clayman caresses his mask and makes some references to some other person. Not sure if it was mentioned in the WN, but the LN makes it actually quite clear that both Kazaream and Clayman were apparently elves who became undead with possible degrees of connection to Sarion. There's also some fleshing out of Milim's country and her followers and the beast nation(the spinoff manga Trinity focuses on this)
 
Doomrider7 said:
Was gonna comment on it yesterday but forgot. Basically he got "Chaos Chore" from Beretta by way of "Food Chain" and "Skill Adjust" basically giving his resistance to both Holy and Dark attributes.
I think that part is seperate though. Rimuru got that resistance before all the others evolved, so it probably stacks. One is more of a typical "resistance" against attacks such as (holy) disintegration or some demonic stuff that's soul and mind related, while the core is more like being beyond the concept of a monster and makes him immune against holy barriers and such, though he probably can't influence magicules from the air if they don't exist there, but stuff like black flames that just apply his internal reserves would still be usable unlike previously.
 
Doomrider7 said:
That part with Laplace struck me as well. There was also another scene after Laplace leaves where Clayman caresses his mask and makes some references to some other person. Not sure if it was mentioned in the WN, but the LN makes it actually quite clear that both Kazaream and Clayman were apparently elves who became undead with possible degrees of connection to Sarion. There's also some fleshing out of Milim's country and her followers and the beast nation(the spinoff manga Trinity focuses on this)
It's interesting that Milim's head priest is appearently slightly stronger than Benimaru. But from their stories I can totally get why Milim is so taken in by Rimuru and his town. With the Dragon Worshippers idea of "Food is best when it's as natural as possible, so give her only raw food!", it's really no surprise Milim is so sensitive about her lunch being banned, considering she had to endure such bullshit for food.
 
I think that part is seperate though. Rimuru got that resistance before all the others evolved, so it probably stacks. One is more of a typical "resistance" against attacks such as (holy) disintegration or some demonic stuff that's soul and mind related, while the core is more like being beyond the concept of a monster and makes him immune against holy barriers and such, though he probably can't influence magicules from the air if they don't exist there, but stuff like black flames that just apply his internal reserves would still be usable unlike previously.

I'll look it over next chance I get.
 
Rimuru obtains ÞüûÚ¡öµö╗µÆâÞÇɵǺ (Holy-Demonic Attack Resistance) right after the evolution starts, before he even gains any Ultimate Skills. At that time Rimuru's subordinates (and Beretta) didn't receive their own evolution yet - that only happened after Raphael was already reviving Shion and the others.

So that and what Rimuru got from Beretta should be seperate things.
 
Also, something I wanted to mention. In a seperate thread against Meng Hao, it was mentioned that if out of control, Bleezbuth would devour the universe. Is this true?
 
Milly Rocking Bandit said:
Also, something I wanted to mention. In a seperate thread against Meng Hao, it was mentioned that if out of control, Bleezbuth would devour the universe. Is this true?
I never heard that it could devour the universe.
 
I think it was this post by GLHF22:

"No its 2C in His side story its stated if Beelzebub out of control its Will swallow the universe"

Not sure what he is refering to though.
 
Here's the quote:

"Then, as for why I cannot reproduce… there is simply no need.
As I'm a "Perfect Individual", one of the four ever existed "True Dragons".
"Storm Dragon Veldora!" is I!
I am bound by neither life span nor flesh! A mass of magic essences, and as long as I have will I'm immortal!!"
 
That what you just called "Veldora's Diary", i.e. Veldora's Slime Observation Journal, the official title of the manga volume extra.

Speaking of which, what will happen to that after Veldora gets freed from the infinite prison? Will it continue with Ifrit being solo? But then again then it wouldn't be Veldora's Slime Observation Journal anymore, would it? Well, Veldora's true body is still within Rimuru, so who knows... Also the manga vol. 12 VSOJ is going to be quite interesting, since it will have Ifrit being summoned out for a bit.
 
Yeah I just call them Veldora's Diaries for short and yeah I've been thinking about both of those things for a while. By the way, LN6 confirmed that of the First and Second generation Demon Lords(Guy, Milim, Ramiris/Lamrys, Dagruel, Ruminas/Luminous, Dino), only Dagruel and Ramiris/Lamrys are not "Awakened"

As an aside the reason for the Ramiris/Lamrys and Ruminas/Luminous spelling is due to the various alternate spellings seen in the official translated material and the info books.

Edit: Oh Shit! Benimaru is a Spirit existence similar to a Dryad now ditto for all of the other Oni/Kijin! That and Treyni got a HUGE buff on top of having a vessel body similar to Beretta except made of her old tree. Either way, she was ranked Special S I believe or Disaster Rank. These two books I'm gonna need to read over a good few times to collect all of the info, but everybody got all kind of crazy buffs.
 
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