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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 6

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rimuru and veldora meet ainz ooal gow 😂 I wonder what would happen if veldora and rimuru got killed while still in their homunculus bodies ? lol this is quite dangerous
 
I think there was aproblem about resistance to Soul Manipulation for Rimuru Tempest (Web Novel). The crossing of the Soul is mentioned in Web Novel (Chater 3); I don't believe it was mentioned in the LN ealier volume because I read all 4 volumes of LN before going to WN.

(Hmm. "Reincarnated Person" tend to be born once in a while. Those with strong Will and memories engraved in their soul.
Those among them who can perfectly remember their past life are not unusual. But, a "Reincarnated Person" from an another world is a bit rare. Not to mention, you'd normally be born as a human. To be born as a monster, and from magic essence to say the least, that I have never heard of. There are few people with strong soul who able to endure the crossing between worlds. Moreover, had the soul not stabilized with the monster body after reincarnating, the soul would have vanished.
~ Volume 1 Chapter 3 W​
(Well, many of the "Otherworlder" possess special power when they came to this world. That is the power that engraved into their soul before they crossing the world.
If it's "Summoned Person", 100% that person would possess special power. In addition, possessing one of a kind "Unique Skill" in this world. The reason might be their strong "soul" which can endure the summon, different from "Otherworlder" who stumbled by chance The fact that success rate of summoning is less than 0.03%, supported it)
~ Volume 1 Chapter 4 W​
I guess this line sould be back on Rimuru Tempest (Web Novel)'s page under Resistance:

  • Soul Manipulation Has a strong soul which allowed him to survive the crossing between worlds. Possesses a unique skill which is the shape of the mind itself, and require a strong soul in order to have it. As an Awakened Demon Lord, Rimuru can resist soul manipulation which works on thousands of people.
 
Gonna have a lot to read tomorrow with vol 5 and 6 out.

@Elizhaa Soul manipulation resistance for otherworlders in the wn is fine, there shouldn't be any mention about unique skills being the shape of the mind though, that was only brought up in the veldora observation journal.
 
No, actually the LN does have it. Rather, Rimuru's soul feat is even more impressive in the LN because not only did he survive the transit with only his soul, but he also maintained his memories, which is appearently quite rare for "Transmigrants" (in this context transmigrant = reincarnation - does not include people who got transported or summoned with their own bodies):


Hmph. You do see transmigrants, on occasion. Their memories from the past are burned into their souls, due to a powerful will. There are some, indeed, who retain every memory of their past lives. But a transmigrant from another world... That is quite uncommon. A regular soul, by itself, would have no hope of surviving a journey across realms. It would dissolve midway, taking its memories with it. Someone retaining their full mind and becoming reborn as a monster out of pure magic... I cannot recall any past example of that. Quite... peculiar, indeed.

Transmigrants from other worlds, it seemed, kept only part of their memories at best. Someone like me, who still had them all, was pretty well unheard of—not that I cared too much.
~ LN vol. 1​
As CP said, the sentence "Unique Skills are the shape of the mind" comes from Veldora's Slime Observation Journal, so unless that part is proven to be somewhere in the WN version, it's out. Even so that would just mean that that part of it has to be removed. I also agree the remainder should be re-added to the WN profile. (It does support the angle of Unique Skill = Strong Soul though, but no implications in regards to possible mind resistance (which we might check for the LN at some point)).

Likewise any other Otherworld-Reincarnators, (e.g. Venom), as well as any Summons, should gain soul-hax resistance based on that, but not neccessarily those who got transported by accident and have no Unique Skill, but I am not sure if someone like that even exists in the WN version, so it's probably not relevant.

Anyway, I noticed that Shion's (and Rimuru's in "obtainable from subordinates) WN profile still say that Shion got "Endless Regenerationn EX". I have previously explained that that's a mistranslation. Crosschecking with the RAWs revealed that the skill Shion and the monster children obtained is just Þç¬ÕÀ▒Õåìþöƒex [Self-Regenerationn EX], which appeard way back in Rimuru's post-Orc-Disaster status display. It's not, like the mistranslated term would have suggested, a superior version of Rimuru's Endless Regenerationn. No, Rimuru's þäíÚÖÉÕåìþöƒ [Endless Regenerationn] is an upgraded version of Self-Regenerationn EX. That so-called "Endless Regenerationn EX" (which would be something like "þäíÚÖÉÕåìþöƒex") is made up by the translator (by mistake, I hope) and does not exist anywhere in the RAWs, so there's that. It'd have been odd for Shion's Regen Skill to be better than Rimuru's in the first place. Actually Shion's stat screen at a different scene in the WN shows Shion's Skills correctly, i.e. "Self-Regenerationn EX".
 
Funny you mention that. But in the LN I think it's just refering to the previous life of the person who got transported, not a different timeline.

But there's actually something that'd support what you just said, which is the very beginning of the manga. Notice how the Orc among Rimuru's underling in Satoru's "dream" is actually not Geld II but rather Geld I? Aside from possibly being an oversight by the manga artist, the only reasonable in-universe explanation would be that he "dreamt" of (or perhaps rather "recalled") a previous timeline where things went a bit differently and Rimuru managed to get into contact with Geld I before Gelmud.
 
Now that I think about it, the beginning of the manga might actually be a "minor resistance against Time Manipulation" feat for the LN version of Rimuru.

Further it indicates that Chloe's Time Leap range might be 2-C level in both versions, since it affects multiple universes, though one might argue that in the WN version Rimuru only gets pulled into the timeloop after reincarnating and therefore timeleap only reset him to his moment of birth as a Slime.

Though regardless, the fact that not even the highest-level beings like Guy or Milim seem to be able to resist the timeleaps' effects, indicates that Chloe's Skill is pretty damn effective despite the corresponding restrictions. Though whether it really does or doesn't affect someone like Guy in the LN version too, remains yet to be seen.

But even though I am indeed curious about this matter, it's not the time for that. With the upcoming wave of vol. 5 and vol. 6 changes, I have no interest in starting a CRT for something as complex as this yet. Maybe some other time.
 
@Milly Type 1 acausality is being immune to changes in the past, chloe gains the memories of her future self, don't think anything about the past is changing.
 
Don't know, why don't you bump it? It's not my thread.

Already agreed with the changes.
 
Well, I wasn't sure because I wanted a final confirmation on the "power to destroy a town isn't neccessarily proof for destroying a town in one attack" issue from you and/or Elizhaa.
 
NeoSuperior said:
Well, I wasn't sure because I wanted a final confirmation on the "power to destroy a town isn't neccessarily proof for destroying a town in one attack" issue from you and/or Elizhaa.
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The town feat is up to interpretation but from proper contexts, stories AP feats tends to occurs in one attacks not multiple attacks. By Occam's Razor, I believe the 7-C is the same and thus valid.
 
GLHF22 said:
Can Conceptual Erasure kill Rimuru Along with His Imaginary Clone?
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If it does not have Multerversal range, at least, then no.
 
NeoSuperior said:
Something wrong today? Why all these Rimuru match-ups all of a sudden?
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Lots of people have been picking up the manga and Light Novels I imagine so the interest has likely been piqued.
 
So, is a Awakened Demon Lord Key for the LN going to be made soon or do we wait for more info?
 
The two LN volumes were only just released today and the volumes are rather long. Let everyone read through them first.
 
I keep forgetting my reading speed is faster than average. Also I kinda like how they expanded on Clayman's character.
 
Still on Vol 2 of WN ver....school's still kicking me in the arse for me to read it but I might be able to finish some chaps in it today now.

Remind me, is it planned that up to Vol 9 of the LN ver will be released by the end of this year?
 
For first read-through I'd recommend using a text-to-voice method. It makes long texts much easier to take in and increases the pace to read it. I personally use Balabolka but other such software should work well enough. You can even create .mp3 files, put them onto your mobile devices and listen to it on the way. I just listened to all of LN vol. 5 while riding a train.
 
Started reading vol. 6 and unless he lies about absolutely everything even to Yuuki/Kazaream, then Laplace got a huge nerf in the LN, considering how all 3 of them find the idea of Rimuru killing the Falmas army by himself "utterly unthinkable", though Laplace is still the only one among them who at least finds it conveivable.

EDIT: Correction, it's the soul-collection feat that they are surprised about not the killing itself.
 
Read to the end and you will see two feats, I think, that shows all the members of the Moderate Clown Troupe, besides one, are quite powerful though probably not Awakened Demon Lord level.
 
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