Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

[The_golden_and_silver_house94]

You can read an in-depth explanation of the working on this post and my other posts after that on the same thread

Reading your explanations ,i think the immeasurable speed justifications should also be reworded
Also if this coordinate system is part of the laws of time and space ,doesn't that make attributes unbound by it since the attributes are independent of the concepts they govern

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

Reading your explanations ,i think the immeasurable speed justifications should also be reworded
Also if this coordinate system is part of the laws of time and space ,doesn't that make attributes unbound by it since the attributes are independent of the concepts they govern

I think he had a better explanation Here

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Reading your explanations ,i think the immeasurable speed justifications should also be reworded
Also if this coordinate system is part of the laws of time and space ,doesn't that make attributes unbound by it since the attributes are independent of the concepts they govern

Attributes are the fundamental truths themselves.
But well, we don't have any direct statement that attributes are made of magicule[inside the heart of which IP exist], so I suppose in a way, yes. The law of causality[included in the GS of time] existed even in Suspended world.

 

[The_golden_and_silver_house94]

Attributes are the fundamental truths themselves.
But well, we don't have any direct statement that attributes are made of magicule[inside the heart of which IP exist], so I suppose in a way, yes. The law of causality[included in the GS of time] existed even in Suspended world.

Well since attributes govern the principles of the world ,i thought they are type 1 in relation to the principle they govern ,so regardless of whether they operate on the same coordinate system as the info particles or not they should atleast be independent of the laws of time and space

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Well since attributes govern the principles of the world ,i thought they are type 1 in relation to the principle they govern ,so regardless of whether they operate on the same coordinate system as the info particles or not they should atleast be independent of the laws of time and space

They are type 1in relation to the world.
Well, attributes do govern the laws of space and time. But the "coordinate system" of DLFs is not exactly within space nor time. A BDE1 being such as DLFs do not trace a path in the regular coordinate system of space-time.

 

[The_golden_and_silver_house94]

They are type 1in relation to the world.
Well, attributes do govern the laws of space and time. But the "coordinate system" of DLFs is not exactly within space nor time. A BDE1 being such as DLFs do not trace a path in the regular coordinate system of space-time.

I meant they should be independent of the regular coordinate system of space and time not the DLF system

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

I meant they should be independent of the regular coordinate system of space and time not the DLF system

Did you read what I sent last time?

 

[The_golden_and_silver_house94]

Did you read what I sent last time?

The explanation is alright ,but i wanted to understand the nature of the attributes in relation to the regular coordinate system of space and time

Let me put it this way ,if the regular coordinate system of the worlds is box A ,and the DLF coordinate system is a bigger box B encompassing box A ,i thought attributes should be independent of box A only since they are concepts type 1 .
So they should atleast be independent of the regular coordinate system of worlds but not the coordinate system of DLF

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

I meant they should be independent of the regular coordinate system of space and time not the DLF system

then yeah, they are, since they existed before the world.

 

[The_golden_and_silver_house94]

then yeah, they are, since they existed before the world.

Then they should also get BDE type 1,,,,no?
They are the source and essence of every phenomenon in the world and yet they are higher (higher than spiritual lifeforms who are natural phenomenon in its purest and most original form )and independent of it ,i thought they qualify

 

[Berga14]

Then they should also get BDE type 1,,,,no?
They are the source and essence of every phenomenon in the world and yet they are higher (higher than spiritual lifeforms who are natural phenomenon in its purest and most original form )and independent of it ,i thought they qualify

They already have bde1.
But the things you listed here have bothing to do with bde1.

 

[The_golden_and_silver_house94]

They already have bde1.
But the things you listed here have bothing to do with bde1.

If i remember correctly they have HDE (5d)
Also dont the attributes of time and space have their own spiritual lifeforms emboding them

 

[Berga14]

If i remember correctly they have HDE (5d)
Also dont the attributes of time and space have their own spiritual lifeforms emboding them

Nop, bde 1

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Nop, bde 1

the officially accepted thing is HDE for them, sadly. BDE is for the future.

 

[Berga14]

the officially accepted thing is HDE for them, sadly. BDE is for the future.

Dlf have bde 1 thought

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Dlf have bde 1 thought

Yeah, but I was talking about Great Spirits xD

 

[Berga14]

Yeah, but I was talking about Great Spirits xD

Oh, well bde 1 for them can probably be done but it will be a different kind of bde1

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Oh, well bde 1 for them can probably be done but it will be a different kind of bde1

It would rather be BDE2 if we go by them being 1-A via being Type 1 concepts.

 

[Robo432343]

guys lets fix the profile

Veldanava Scan Issues (TSSDK)

Mutilocation - the information that shapes reality This scan does not work High Godly - Everything in Tensura is made up by Information Particles, including the nucleus heart/core. This scan does not work Avatar Creation and Abstract Existence - Cores are made up of information which serve...

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[Curcuma_x_curcuma]

Rimuru vs Yang Kai

Rimuru (key: Digital Nature) https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Rimuru_Tempest_(Light_Novel) VS Yang Kai (key:9th Rank Open Heaven) https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Yang_Kai_(3000_Worlds)

vsbattles.com

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Finally, my imgur is fixed, so all the scans are back
@CodeCCLL @Robo432343 @Berga14 @Mizuki67

 

[Curcuma_x_curcuma]

Finally, my imgur is fixed, so all the scans are back
@CodeCCLL @Robo432343 @Berga14 @Mizuki67

Hooray, finally.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Hooray, finally.

 

[Berga14]

Hooray, finally.

...

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

...

Welp, at least I wasn't the only one who fell for it

 

[Meli_Tempest]

Finally, my imgur is fixed, so all the scans are back
@CodeCCLL @Robo432343 @Berga14 @Mizuki67

Nice!

 

[Trigger]

Hooray, finally.

Deep down I knew what was going to happen, but I still clicked it anyway, sigh.

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime: Wedges of the Sky starts on November 15th, and official GBF Twitter has shown off the art for Rimuru Tempest, who will join the crew as part of the event. After the second part of the event unlocks, Rimuru can be uncapped to 5 stars.

So Wilnas vs Veldora might actually be a thing with this collab. Since they mention wedges. Which are the Six Original Dragons shaping reality

 

[CodeCCLL]

Since they mention wedges. Which are the Six Original Dragons shaping reality

The same concept also already exists in Tensura.

Veldora is a True Dragon, as Storm Dragon with water and wind attributes (part of the great spirits of water and wind); is shaping storm, annihilation, destruction, corrosion in the reality and is the embodiment of the laws and concepts that govern reality, is the holy will of nature, is the source of the world etc.

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

The same concept also already exists in Tensura.

Veldora is a True Dragon, as Storm Dragon with water and wind attributes (part of the great spirits of water and wind); is shaping storm, annihilation, destruction, corrosion in the reality and is the embodiment of the laws and concepts that govern reality, is the holy will of nature, is the source of the world etc.

yeah, exactly they are near similar concepts (Both type 2 info too lmao). They shape the concept and the Concept is represented either by primal beasts or True Dragons(dragons born from the System created by the Six Dragons)
Granblue basically knows what to cook for the collab.
Since Fire in Granblue shapes destruction, Erasure, etc
Water is purification pureness etc etc
Wind is a concept such as luck, whims of the wind, Decay, and erosion
Earth is I'm not sure
Dark is death, rebirth, etc
Light is Life, energy, etc

So bringing the Wedges pretty much in line with it

Rimuru getting new abilities or traits from Primal beasts or True dragons if he learned or studied them might warrant allowing collab profile due to having new abilities

Either way I'm expecting something nice (although a bit concern because iirc the creator of Tensura dislike power scaling comparison of Tensura over others)

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Either way I'm expecting something nice (although a bit concern because iirc the creator of Tensura dislike power scaling comparison of Tensura over others)

True, and that's evident from the writing style in the novel as he tries to use as less buzzwords as possible and always makes sure to add some big "Weakness" to every ability in the series

Since Fire in Granblue shapes destruction, Erasure, etc
Water is purification pureness etc etc

Those two would be different from tensura's water and fire

Wind is a concept such as luck, whims of the wind, Decay, and erosion

Yeah, that's pretty much the same as our case except luck

Earth is I'm not sure

In our case its like compression, density etc

Dark is death, rebirth, etc

For us It's the same for Death part, but not rebirth

Light is Life, energy, etc

Same here for life, energy would be something true for all great spirits in slime tho

 

[Doomrider7]

yeah, exactly they are near similar concepts (Both type 2 info too lmao). They shape the concept and the Concept is represented either by primal beasts or True Dragons(dragons born from the System created by the Six Dragons)
Granblue basically knows what to cook for the collab.
Since Fire in Granblue shapes destruction, Erasure, etc
Water is purification pureness etc etc
Wind is a concept such as luck, whims of the wind, Decay, and erosion
Earth is I'm not sure
Dark is death, rebirth, etc
Light is Life, energy, etc

So bringing the Wedges pretty much in line with it

Rimuru getting new abilities or traits from Primal beasts or True dragons if he learned or studied them might warrant allowing collab profile due to having new abilities

Either way I'm expecting something nice (although a bit concern because iirc the creator of Tensura dislike power scaling comparison of Tensura over others)

Source on that last paragraph? Not questioning it, just curious about more interviews from FUSE on stuff.

 

[Neoxxi16]

Has anyone planned to create a profile for Prelix? Although he doesn't have many feats, he's an interesting character because of his skill.

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

Has anyone planned to create a profile for Prelix? Although he doesn't have many feats, he's an interesting character because of his skill.

The one from the vacation spin-off?

 

[Neoxxi16]

The one from the vacation spin-off?

Yes, Prelix and Pippin have interesting skills: Absolute Immortality and a replica of Small World.

 

[Neoxxi16]

I have a question: if Prelix was erased by disintegration, how was he able to regenerate? If disintegration hit him completely and left no trace of his existence, the Absolute Immortality skill should have been destroyed along with Prelix. Does this mean the skill worked even after he was erased? Or am I misunderstanding? @CodeCCLL @Eikichi_Sensei @Astral_Trinity439

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

I have a question: if Prelix was erased by disintegration, how was he able to regenerate? If disintegration hit him completely and left no trace of his existence, the Absolute Immortality skill should have been destroyed along with Prelix. Does this mean the skill worked even after he was erased? Or am I misunderstanding? @CodeCCLL @Eikichi_Sensei @Astral_Trinity439

Since Astral and Code accepted the degradation, the core was not erased, so it only resurrected or regenerated from its core. I find this funny since Disintegration is an ability to kill Spiritual beings that can only be done through destroying their core.

 

[CodeCCLL]

I have a question: if Prelix was erased by disintegration, how was he able to regenerate? If disintegration hit him completely and left no trace of his existence, the Absolute Immortality skill should have been destroyed along with Prelix. Does this mean the skill worked even after he was erased? Or am I misunderstanding?

Frankly, I haven't read that spin-off, so I don't know the skill in question, but the skill itself may be self-regenerative, I know of a few cases like that.

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

Desintegración:

"Star Restriction Technique, Astral Bind!"
The talisman I had unknowingly pulled out was binding Prelix.
The Star Restriction Technique, Astral Bind, does not target the physical body but instead binds the astral body, the vessel of the soul. So no matter how strong the physical body is, if the mental strength is weak, it won't be able to move. It's something like a determination duel between Hinata and Prelix, but if I can stop her movement even for a moment, it’s a win.
Because if movement is halted even for a moment during an equal fight, it can lead to a fatal mistake.
"wait—"
Prelix is agitated, but it's already too late.
"I offer my prayers to the gods. I desire, I desire the power of the holy spirit. Let my request be heard. Let everything vanish! 'Disintegration'!!"
Well, I would use it.
The magic Hinata chose was the most powerful of the <Holy Magics>.
It wouldn't be an exaggeration to say that there is no one who can withstand a direct attack from this magic, as it contains supreme destructive power.
"That was easy. Although I was nervous because she was stronger, at least she underestimated me, so I was able to get rid of her without any problems."
After confirming that Prelix had turned to dust, Hinata let out a sigh of relief.
I thought she intended to completely kill her, but maybe she just couldn't hold back. Truly, it was a difficult opponent even for Hinata if she hadn't cast her most powerful magic right away.
Hinata's unique ability, 'Usurper', is characterized by having an absolute advantage over those who are superior. That's why she can gauge her opponent's level to a certain extent.
"The results of the evaluation have been continuously 'failures' and I couldn't steal Prelix's 'Ultraspeed Regeneration'. There were also abilities like 'Dark Night Cycle' that even resulted in 'failures', so it was good that I defeated her before she could use them."
She said this as she walked back towards me, Hinata.
However, at that moment, I had a very unpleasant premonition.
'Hinata—'
Before I could utter a warning, it happened.
“Did you think I was dead? You are very mistaken.”
Prelix, who was supposed to have turned to dust, rebirthed in a perfect state and attacked Hinata from behind.
The claws on her fingers were stained crimson and extended straight like swords. With them, she stabbed Hinata's back as if it were a combat hand.
However, Hinata managed to sense the danger in time and turned around. By a hair's breadth, she dodged Prelix's deadly strike.
“—Damn, I saw it— ‘Absolute Immortality’— isn't it...?”
“Ugh! Even though I was surprised, did she evade my Blood Claw?”

Explication:

"Do you expect there to be a limit on how many times I can do this? Unfortunately for you! Prelix won't die tonight."
Ashley smirked at me with disdain, but that meant nothing to me.
The blow I just dealt was not meant to kill; it was merely an outlet. The revenge for what they did to Hinata will be carried out much more slowly from now on.
《… Announcement. Enough time has passed, so I can deactivate the "Infinite Corridor" at any moment…》
Waiting.
As if saying "as expected," the Wise King Raphael remained silent.
Isn't it obvious?
Even if I summoned Velodra here, my anger wouldn't calm down.
I felt like I could hear a voice lamenting because it was my turn to act, but I ignored it.
"It seems you have a misconception, but I can't believe that guy is immortal. Are there no conditions for that?"
I pointed out.
The "Disintegration of Spiritual Particles" is undoubtedly the most powerful.
Even Diablo, on my side, said he would die if he took it head-on.
If he doesn’t die despite receiving that, there are two possibilities: either his main body is somewhere else, or he really wasn't hit.
That also explains why I managed to escape from Hinata, and it feels more accurate to think that his main body is elsewhere.
However, my trusted companion, the Wise King Raphael, had a different opinion.
《—He was indeed hit directly. However, just after it was confirmed that Prelix's magical elements were disintegrated and the spiritual particles scattered, they recombined in a strange way.》
It could be an unknown power that only functions within this magical tower, or perhaps it was due to Prelix's "Absolute Immortality" ability. Either reason could be plausible.
And upon hearing that, I formulated a hypothesis.
Since this magical tower is a closed space, it is unlikely that the "soul" would disperse. The room is filled with magical light, and not even the light of the stars enters.
Based on its structure, I assume that Prelix might have difficulty with sunlight.

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

@Neoxxi16

You're talking about that Skill, right?