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this is gonna end the same when you tried to
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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20
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wait when
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well im not wanking actually cuz im bringin up some of PI and this "Complex Number" theory.. which i think it could be used to scale..
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If rimuru does becomes a god in the end i doubt that would be the case but relativistic+ god tier hurts ngl at least they have higher reactions with some good passive
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Rimuru has at least infinite speed, if Fuse doesn't do that, it's going to be very incoherent all the speed downgrade he brought from volume 15 onwards, because even Albert had FTL feats before Fuse changed the entire speed system, this sudden change can only mean infinite speed for digital beings
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Inaccessible but VSB doesn't have that tier because they slow.
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Man all the PGs and homes are gone from here. I swear the notifications are ultra ******. They eventually stop for some reason. Guess I'll watch for CRTs to stop ridiculous claims and scaling.
My current stance is that all top tiers are Star Levels likely for stronger. And even how isn't a Digital Lifeform is slower than LS. Digital Lifeforms are potentially Immeasurable speed but need feats or more preponderance of evidence.
My current stance is that all top tiers are Star Levels likely for stronger. And even how isn't a Digital Lifeform is slower than LS. Digital Lifeforms are potentially Immeasurable speed but need feats or more preponderance of evidence.
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Why they did not add this type of speed..? Is there any thread of that topic?
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Iirc many character that can walk in void still have slow speed feats that contradict Inacessible >infinite. If I'm not wrong toaru is one of them
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That has nothing to do with the tier itself
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It was a long time ago so I recall the reasoning
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until now (volume 13) the physical characters are hypersonic, the spiritual ones are relativist+, above that we have the digital beings being probably immeasurable and Veldanava being possibly Omnipresent (there are other worlds like hell, palace, promised land, transcendent worlds etc, but nothing this was explained so it doesn't count) what you have for now is this
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It's explained in the speed tier
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in digital beings it can be infinite or immeasurable speed, i think it is immeasurable because velgrind visited worlds beyond directions where past and future did not matter, and digital beings by their very nature are beyond these worlds as time stops in all of them
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I don't remember if it was explained in detail, it just says it's the ultimate defense skill that can't be broken by forcing your law on it (even Turn null has no effect), the only way to break it is to find faults in the way the user uses like Rudra for example who found out how it worked and how to get around it
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That's with Spacetime Leap. And it's not beyond direction just that its a void with no discernable direction.
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the key point to achieving immeasurable speed and possibly other things is that past and future are described as directions, and that even a world without directions also stops in the suspended world, and unlike the velgrind ability that needs to be activated, digital beings are made of information particles and its very nature is beyond time and space itself
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immeasurable speed is almost certain, unless there is a very big mistake in the translation or there are contradictions later on
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what does Iirc mean btw?
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what surprised me the most is the design of the skills, first the skill from Diablo and now from Ruminas, it's amazing
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I'm convinced Velgrynd won't be able to achieve speed above light feats until volume 19, her power is similar to Mai's teleportation, with the difference that Velgrynd needs to "leap" while Mai can do this just by wishing, among other small differences, but beings like Guy, Chloe, Michael and Rimuru should receive immeasurable speed, there are good scans proving that, The question is: who is a digital life? Are there beings that can move in the suspended world even be digital life forms? If yes, everything will be messed up
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I loved the mangaka's creativity, Diablo's ability conveys the idea of something imposing as described in LN, and the blessing of death surprised me even more, I didn't expect something like "the hands of God" as Rimuru described it, but I'm still confused as to what the skill does, it felt like an erasure of existence, but I have to read the LN to remember the description
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they should reach around Low Multiversal since True Dragon can destroy weak worlds
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I saw someone commenting on this a while ago, but it was discarded because it doesn't have the official translation and the "weak worlds" can be planets and not universes, if the translation comes out and they really are universes, all true dragons including Rimuru and beings as strong as they should receive 2-C, if they are just planets nothing changes
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I'm pretty sure the world is universe, I find it very difficult for slime to have a cosmology similar to Fate
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i have few reasoning regarding this that can prove its universe
1. Every world have different causality system
2. Every world have different timeline
3. World is bigger than a universe, and mentioned to be a space-time
4. It doesnt make any sense if True Dragon can only destroy planet at full power meanwhile Pre-Evolution Ivarage who stated to rival them can easily destroy a star
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They used these arguments to validate the possible Low 2-C, but they rejected for some reason that I can not remember now and they said it was best to wait for the translation to decide something, I also believe they are universes
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it would be an incoherent way to think that worlds refer to planets in that context, Carrera who is MUCH inferior to a true dragon and had just awakened as a DL already had an attack that could destroy the planet even though he was in another dimension, even being in the cardinal world which is a "strong world", later, Velgrynd still evolved absurdly after his skill became god class, after what we have presented, tell me what would be the logic of Velgrynd referring only to a planet in a weak world? I doubt this won't scale them to 2-C when the official translation comes out.
they did not accept it just because the official translation had not been published, but no one came to disagree, they would not even have enough arguments to deny it.
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Velzard as well
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Take that with a grain of salt
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It's completely explained in vol19
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what I remember is that she has the power to absorb things into the imaginary world, but I don't remember any details other than that, if you have, send the scans please
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Since there's no sign of Volume 20 coming out yet, I thought that volume 20 would be out when Tensura Movie airs. But, that's just my mind.
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About Transduality, I think Rimuru can get it.
Great Spirit showed that it was Duality. Light and Darkness, Yin and Yang.
I think things like Demon and Angel, Demonic Skill and Angelic Skill, and Demon Lord and Hero are Duality. They have a cause-and-effect relationship, where Demons are born as a response to the birth of Angel.
Great Spirit showed that it was Duality. Light and Darkness, Yin and Yang.
At the very least, Rimuru could obtain Transduality Type 1.
I think things like Demon and Angel, Demonic Skill and Angelic Skill, and Demon Lord and Hero are Duality. They have a cause-and-effect relationship, where Demons are born as a response to the birth of Angel.
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summarizing what I understand so far about cosmology
Confirmed = 2-B "many worlds" that Velgrynd says his brother created
possible updates = 1-C of Velgrynd's quote about "spaces between dimensions" and "dimensions beyond time"
low 1- A The promised land "where everything looks like fiction"
Did I forget or miss something?
Confirmed = 2-B "many worlds" that Velgrynd says his brother created
possible updates = 1-C of Velgrynd's quote about "spaces between dimensions" and "dimensions beyond time"
low 1- A The promised land "where everything looks like fiction"
Did I forget or miss something?
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transduality 2 can be obtained by NEP 2?
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