Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

[Peak]

Can someone tell me how strong Rimuru's reality manipulation is in WN?

 

[Peak]

By the way, I don't think the verse scales to low 1-A with Promised Land as Masayuki's power looks more like Subjective Reality where he can summon even beings that have been erased from existence then not the Promised Land should not be upgraded

 

[Community_Gamer]

Since there's no sign of Volume 20 coming out yet, I thought that volume 20 would be out when Tensura Movie airs. But, that's just my mind.

The movie is out next year. V20 will probably be Fall.

 

[Community_Gamer]

By the way, I don't think the verse scales to low 1-A with Promised Land as Masayuki's power looks more like Subjective Reality where he can summon even beings that have been erased from existence then not the Promised Land should not be upgraded

Yeah I don't where people got the idea that the Promised Land is even above anything. We barely know anything about it. The fiction thing was about Masayuki making essentially fiction verse of summoned champions through Rudra.

 

[Sniper670]

summarizing what I understand so far about cosmology

Confirmed = 2-B "many worlds" that Velgrynd says his brother created

If values cannot be determined, the wiki will lowball

possible updates = 1-C of Velgrynd's quote about "spaces between dimensions" and "dimensions beyond time"

Without context, the wiki will lowball "beyond time"

low 1- A The promised land "where everything looks like fiction"

Subjective reality. Iirc a transcended character cannot descend, nor can he be interacted with by lower entities without the use of avatars or an in-verse explained mechanic

 

[Sniper670]

transduality 2 can be obtained by NEP 2?

Nep 2 can be obtained by TD 2, not the other way round

 

[Sniper670]

At the very least, Rimuru could obtain Transduality Type 1.

Bruh.... TD 1 light and darkness.
So you're immune to light and darkness manipulation. That's cool.... I guess.

 

[Zegion]

what I remember is that she has the power to absorb things into the imaginary world, but I don't remember any details other than that, if you have, send the scans please

About castle guard?

 

[LoganKroos]

About castle guard?

Yes

 

[Zegion]

This was because no matter what the attack was, it would be ineffective against the ‘Castle guard"

As long as there was loyalty to its owner, the ‘Castle Guard’ was invincible. In other words, the ‘Covenant King Uriel’ and the ‘Justice King Michael’ were similar in the sense that they listened to the voices of those who were connected to them.

Currently, Hinata had defeated Reiner, but Feldway was still alive. Velgrynd was dealing with him, but as long as the ‘Castle Guard’ was in place, her attacks wouldn’t work.

He realized at a glance that it had the same properties as the 'Castle Guard' he wore.

"The more people who believe in me, the more power I have. How many of your followers do you have? I've got over a billion people counting on me
!"!"

‘Castle Guard’ was supposed to disable all attacks, but for some reason it hadn’t done so this time. As a result, the overlapping energy of Obera’s concentrated fire burned Michael to a crisp.


…No energy is reaching the ‘Castle Guard’? I see…apparently, none of them are loyal to me.

 

[LoganKroos]

basically it's the strongest skill as long as it meets the requirements to be activated, simple but scary, now that Rimuru has it along with Ciel being responsible for using it, apart from Turn Null, parallel existence and the imaginary kingdom I want to see how Fedway and Ivaraj will go through this, I think from volume 20 onwards rimuru is already stronger than in the web novel

 

[ImmortalDread]

basically it's the strongest skill as long as it meets the requirements to be activated, simple but scary, now that Rimuru has it along with Ciel being responsible for using it, apart from Turn Null, parallel existence and the imaginary kingdom I want to see how Fedway and Ivaraj will go through this, I think from volume 20 onwards rimuru is already stronger than in the web novel

Realistically speaking, without any wanks' usage, what do you scale Rimuru to in a light novel?

 

[Zegion]

basically it's the strongest skill as long as it meets the requirements to be activated, simple but scary, now that Rimuru has it along with Ciel being responsible for using it, apart from Turn Null, parallel existence and the imaginary kingdom I want to see how Fedway and Ivaraj will go through this, I think from volume 20 onwards rimuru is already stronger than in the web novel

Also u can't move while using castle guard Rudra was turning it off while attacking and turning it back on after attacking

 

[Zegion]

From Velzard’s ‘Patience King Gabriel,’ the concept of ‘fixation’ had given him an unrivaled and powerful defensive ability. It was not as powerful as Castle Guard, but it was more useful in that it could be used to attack at the same time. Moreover, the concept of “fixation” had given him the ultimate “time stop” ability. As long as he had this, it was as if he could never be defeated by any entity.

 

[Peak]

Realistically speaking, without any wanks' usage, what do you scale Rimuru to in a light novel?

Saying it safely, Rimuru scales to stellar level with the Void God. But if you take into account the statement about weak worlds, I would at least paste it as universal

 

[LoganKroos]

Also u can't move while using castle guard Rudra was turning it off while attacking and turning it back on after attacking

with the parallel existence to use while moving, Fedway did it in the fight against Rimuru, Rimuru can probably also, leave a clone in the imaginary world and use it in reality

 

[Peak]

basically it's the strongest skill as long as it meets the requirements to be activated, simple but scary, now that Rimuru has it along with Ciel being responsible for using it, apart from Turn Null, parallel existence and the imaginary kingdom I want to see how Fedway and Ivaraj will go through this, I think from volume 20 onwards rimuru is already stronger than in the web novel

I think it's possible to get past the castle guard as long as it has more energy than the defense, just like Rudra did, and Turn Null couldn't get through because it doesn't use energy

 

[Peak]

with the parallel existence to use while moving, Fedway did it in the fight against Rimuru, Rimuru can probably also, leave a clone in the imaginary world and use it in reality

Rimuru cannot use parallel existence because he cannot split consciousness, this was said in volume 16 if I remember correctly

 

[LoganKroos]

Realistically speaking, without any wanks' usage, what do you scale Rimuru to in a light novel?

up to volume 13 star level, volume 19 probably low 2c to 2c, with hacks I think it's stronger than its web novel part, especially with the immeasurable speed and denial of HGR

 

[LoganKroos]

I think it's possible to get past the castle guard as long as it has more energy than the defense, just like Rudra did, and Turn Null couldn't get through because it doesn't use energy

energy is given by the amount of people who serve him, Rimuru competes with Rudra in this regard, very difficult to pass him

 

[LoganKroos]

Rimuru cannot use parallel existence because he cannot split consciousness, this was said in volume 16 if I remember correctly

Souei and Veldora have a parallel existence and with the food chain he can have it too, in addition to Ciel being able to adapt and improve the ability for rimuru to use it better

 

[LoganKroos]

Saying it safely, Rimuru scales to stellar level with the Void God. But if you take into account the statement about weak worlds, I would at least paste it as universal

Gluttony was already a star level, if following the web novel Beelzebub is probably low 2c, Azathot can use the null turn that his level has not been explained yet so I can't say

 

[ImmortalDread]

Saying it safely, Rimuru scales to stellar level with the Void God. But if you take into account the statement about weak worlds, I would at least paste it as universal

How is that stronger version than webnovel..?

 

[Peak]

energy is given by the amount of people who serve him, Rimuru competes with Rudra in this regard, very difficult to pass him

Feldway with the real body and Ivarage can do it, but there's not much to say, it's all speculation from here

Souei and Veldora have a parallel existence and with the food chain he can have it too, in addition to Ciel being able to adapt and improve the ability for rimuru to use it better

Yes, but Rimuru can't use it now because he himself said he can't split consciousness, at least not yet, but at the end of the series he should be able to.

Gluttony was already a star level, if following the web novel Beelzebub is probably low 2c, Azathot can use the null turn that his level has not been explained yet so I can't say

Fuse for some reason resolves to drop those kind of statements so I tried for the safest statement possible, but I also think Void God should be at least 2-C

 

[LoganKroos]

How is that stronger version than webnovel..?

with immeasurable speed, the other version wouldn't even be able to interact, apart from that he has resistance to all the passives of the web novel, in addition to being able to cancel all kinds of immortality and the HGR of the web novel with the manipulation of information

 

[ImmortalDread]

with immeasurable speed, the other version wouldn't even be able to interact, apart from that he has resistance to all the passives of the web novel, in addition to being able to cancel all kinds of immortality and the HGR of the web novel with the manipulation of information

But he is max universal level. Is webnovel version not stronger than that?

 

[Peak]

But he is max universal level. Is webnovel version not stronger than that?

Tier doesn't matter in this case, if you have speed below immeasurable, you won't be able to do anything, because it would be as if the world was stopped for those who have immeasurable speed

 

[Peak]

I confidently say that if Rimuru is confirmed with immeasurable speed, he is already superior to WN

 

[ImmortalDread]

Tier doesn't matter in this case, if you have speed below immeasurable, you won't be able to do anything, because it would be as if the world was stopped for those who have immeasurable speed

Create a thread for speed upgrade in light novel

 

[LoganKroos]

in my opinion I would say that in volume 20 we will only have the preparations of each side for the war and in volume 21 we will in fact have battles as was volume 18,19 so the best chance of having the cosmology better explained is in these volumes, if not, the truth of everything will probably only be revealed to us in the last volume

 

[LoganKroos]

Create a thread for speed upgrade in light novel

all slimes will receive drastic updates, but for now nothing will change as it is necessary for the official or fan translation to come out

 

[Peak]

Create a thread for speed upgrade in light novel

Creating this now is useless, unfortunately this update can only be done here for at least 3/4 years

 

[ImmortalDread]

Creating this now is useless, unfortunately this update can only be done here for at least 3/4 years

Welp rip Rimuru vs Anos matches

 

[Peak]

It's likely, but I don't think it's going to be that way, the insects are still attacking, and Dagruel along with Fenn are heading straight to Ruberios, I believe the prologue will show what Feldway will do next, while Ivarage should appear more in the epilogue, so I think it won't be that slow, especially after Fuse said about his plans for the next volumes, in case anyone hasn't seen it, Click here.

 

[Peak]

Welp rip Rimuru vs Anos matches

Please don't let our charismatic goo get beaten up one more time

 

[LoganKroos]

Please don't let our charismatic goo get beaten up one more time

I don't think it would be a beating since Rimuru has a lot of new things to use against Anos, but I still think Anos takes High diff

 

[LoganKroos]

It's likely, but I don't think it's going to be that way, the insects are still attacking, and Dagruel along with Fenn are heading straight to Ruberios, I believe the prologue will show what Feldway will do next, while Ivarage should appear more in the epilogue, so I think it won't be that slow, especially after Fuse said about his plans for the next volumes, in case anyone hasn't seen it, Click here.

so in the next volume we will have Dagruel as the focus, probably Shion too, besides the explanation about the sky tower, I'm relatively curious what that really is

 

[LoganKroos]

Zelanus then will probably just upset Milim a little and retreat only having a more active role in volume 21, I think he can get an evolution with Ivaraj's blessing and probably the other cryptds will show up like Kumara's race for example

 

[Peak]

I don't think it would be a beating since Rimuru has a lot of new things to use against Anos, but I still think Anos takes High diff

I only see Rimuru being beaten up, I don't think he can deny that absurd sword from the years and not even the eyes of destruction, in addition to the higher dimensionality, Anos is in a very absurd moment, besides that his verse is focused on strong characters, while Tensura focuses on other things

 

[Peak]

Zelanus then will probably just upset Milim a little and retreat only having a more active role in volume 21, I think he can get an evolution with Ivaraj's blessing and probably the other cryptds will show up like Kumara's race for example

My wish is to see Veldora and Zegion in action once again, I have high expectations for both of them