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I do feel like Ultimate Gifts should get the resistances, but the only real evidence I have of them being comparable is that they all seem to have Law Manip of their own, implying they may have been free from the laws of the world.
 
Passive abilities are getting pretty common now, how far will Fuse go with all this hax i wonder.

Can't even imagine how absurd Eos characters will be.
 
Fuse is definitely aware of the strength he gave Rimuru in the WN, and I believe him doing this in the LN is like him making sure the others are just as big of threats.

Tempest Tournament is gonna give us an absurd amount of feats, I bet you.
 
Everyone is absurd now, and we haven't seen the top tiers like Guy and Milim do anything yet lol.

Yea was gonna add that.
 
If that's the case and he has Hero and Messiah on top of that which makes you repent and confess your sins, he would be broken.
 
Celestial Pegasus said:
Passive abilities are getting pretty common now, how far will Fuse go with all this hax i wonder.
Can't even imagine how absurd Eos characters will be.
I mean he ironically made the characters haxier even though he wanted to limit the hax as I think he said in an interview earlier.

Honestly, I believe if it wasn't the Ultimate Skills Resistance, I think the LN top top tier could have slap the Demons Lords opponents from the WN.
 
Celestial Pegasus said:
Everyone is absurd now, and we haven't seen the top tiers like Guy and Milim do anything yet lol.
Yea was gonna add that.
I mean Millim is a genius and demon lords have top geniuses in their rank. They might be smarter than Rimuru/Rapheal like Diablo is , depending on future contexts.

Volume 3, Prologue:
To the demon lords who knew Milim, she was regarded as someone with muscles all the way into her brain. A lunkhead, in other words. But the truth lay elsewhere. She was actually extremely intelligent, and it was only her short fuse that made people think otherwise. She had the full ability to sort right from wrong and process matters strategically—something that often made her leap directly into action, making her seem impossibly imprudent. She was one of the top geniuses among them, in fact, but sadly, very few people noticed this. If anything, they

thought she was the simplest, most ill-tempered one.

Utterly ignorant of all this, Milim confidently put her chest forward and revealed her own thoughts to the world. "Who cares about that nonaggression pact?" she said, a world-beating smile on her face. "We should just abolish that thing right now. We got four demon lords here, so it's easy, right?"
 
@Milly Then remove it, working on Ruminas profile.

Hero makes ppl see him as a Hero no matter what he does, mind hax really, Messiah as i said above, Messiah makes ppl want to repent and confess their sins to him.

Don't remember him being anything more than a normal human, and i wasn't keeping track of his abilities.
 
Milly Rocking Bandit said:
Yikes, may have to read up again for a potential profile on him, and same with Rudra.
I'll remove it.
I don't think Masayuki is special too physically. Later, though, it is revealed that he is the reicarnation of Rudra in the WN. Supposably, Rudra and Velgrynd were looking him near the end of Volume 10, Rimuru didn't want to help when asked, though.
 
Well, I think it'd be funny if we got a profile for him, imo. That last sentence doesn't make sense. How can you be someone's reincarnation but have your predecessor look for you?
 
Milly Rocking Bandit said:
Well, I think it'd be funny if we got a profile for him, imo. That last sentence doesn't make sense. How can you be someone's reincarnation but have your predecessor look for you?
Something about a cycle of reincarnation that Rudra is in due to his strong will where he has been reincarnated for thousands of years to keep Justice King Micheal (chapter 183)

I forgot the description fully but I think I remembered that trying to keep he to Ultimate Skill Justice King Micheal which is an Ultimate Gift for him mess him up since he mentally weakens from living so long time to keep it, I believe
 
Ruminas definitely has an ultimate skill, when Hinata tried to analyze Rimuru and steal his skills, her ability was interfere with and she mentions the same thing happened when she fought Ruminas.

She can analyze and steal unique skills with no problems but against someone with an ultimate skill like Rimuru she can't.

So obviously Riminas has an ultimate skill and it's probably the same as in the web novel, we just haven't seen it yet.

Thus she should have the resistances US give.
 
I've noticed that LN characters scale to an anime feat from ranga, if anime is used, can we use manga? because the manga's feat from ranga can be much higher than High 7-A.
 
The Causality said:
I've noticed that LN characters scale to an anime feat from ranga, if anime is used, can we use manga? because the manga's feat from ranga can be much higher than High 7-A.
I think the feat was calculated lower to 8-A or something because of a lack of a proper timeframe.
 
Milly Rocking Bandit said:
Gonna eventually make a blog for LN US Resistances.
I mean I don't think there is statetement that proved LN US Resistances from what I saw.

The best time would have been in the Walpurgis Banquet by Gii Crimson like in WN where he maded the Ultimate Skills Statements.
 
Elizhaa said:
The Causality said:
I've noticed that LN characters scale to an anime feat from ranga, if anime is used, can we use manga? because the manga's feat from ranga can be much higher than High 7-A.
I think the feat was calculated lower to 8-A or something because of a lack of a proper timeframe.
With the manga feat, that completly impossible to be lower than 7-A, with the timeframe of the anime, it coulb higher than High 7-A
 
I mean I don't think there is statetement that proved LN US Resistances from what I saw.

The best time would have been in the Walpurgis Banquet by Gii Crimson like in WN where he maded the Ultimate Skills Statements.

Refer to CP's earlier statement. Hinata couldn't steal Ruminas nor Rimuru's abilities or analyze them.
 
Milly Rocking Bandit said:
Fuse is definitely aware of the strength he gave Rimuru in the WN, and I believe him doing this in the LN is like him making sure the others are just as big of threats.

Tempest Tournament is gonna give us an absurd amount of feats, I bet you.
IIRC Gobta win the tempest tournament thats mean Rimuru 12 Guardians didnt participate in that tournament
 
I mean Millim is a genius and demon lords have top geniuses in their rank. They might be smarter than Rimuru/Rapheal like Diablo is , depending on future contexts.

Volume 3, Prologue:
To the demon lords who knew Milim, she was regarded as someone with muscles all the way into her brain. A lunkhead, in other words. But the truth lay elsewhere. She was actually extremely intelligent, and it was only her short fuse that made people think otherwise. She had the full ability to sort right from wrong and process matters strategically—something that often made her leap directly into action, making her seem impossibly imprudent. She was one of the top geniuses among them, in fact, but sadly, very few people noticed this. If anything, they

thought she was the simplest, most ill-tempered one.

Utterly ignorant of all this, Milim confidently put her chest forward and revealed her own thoughts to the world. "Who cares about that nonaggression pact?" she said, a world-beating smile on her face. "We should just abolish that thing right now. We got four demon lords here, so it's easy, right?"

I love her internal monologue while flying to Tempest. It makes it clear that she knew what was going on the whole time and what Karion and Clayman's objectives were.
 
Ruminas Death and life manip come from her ultimate skill, she use kiss(blessing? I don't remember) of death to seven Celestial
 
Milly Rocking Bandit said:
Elizhaa said:
^^ I mean at best this is resistance to Information Analysis.

This point is no way closed to the concrete statements for US Resistance for lower abilities like WN: "Those who possess an ultimate skill are not affected by lower abilities"
She couldn't steal NOR analyze their abilities.
The statement you provided was only proving resistance to Information Analysis. I am not going extras.

Also, I mean resistance to Hinata's Unique Skills abilities is something already on the current Demon Lord Profiles for the LN:

 
Milly Rocking Bandit said:
Welp, bring it up with CP. I believe it still is.
Lol, I check the LN so it turn out there a statment about US USers no affected by low level skills but it too ambiguous as weakness can still work unlike the WNs.

Wait for the texts:.....

Volume 6: Intermission - pg 222/469

Those who possess ultimate skills cannot be affected by low level skills. In this world;s rule, only those who've obtained ÒÇîUnique SkillsÒÇìcould resist against the strong control of magic. They should still be subjected to elemental attacks that could target their weakness. But speaking of that, there's no way mind control would ever work. Whoever's mind is so fragile that can be manipulated with such skill could never obtain ultimate skills. Ultimate skills, as they're called, are devices to grant access to the ultimate principles of this world. That is why, in order to combat against an ultimate skill, one must employ ultimate skill as well.

That is simply how this world works.
 
It literally is stated that lower abilities don't work on a US user same as the WN, nothings changed.

——Clayman.
This fool tried to control Milim.

What an absolute joke, it's hard enough for one to even try to hide from laughing at it.

His goal is nothing but a lunatic's raving.

Mere Clayman couldn't possibly be able to achieve something even Guy can't do.

Those who possess ultimate skills cannot be affected by low level skills. In this world;s rule, only those who've obtained ÒÇîUnique SkillsÒÇìcould resist against the strong control of magic.

They should still be subjected to elemental attacks that could target their weakness. But speaking of that, there's no way mind control would ever work. Whoever's mind is so fragile that can be manipulated with such skill could never obtain ultimate skills.

Ultimate skills, as they're called, are devices to grant access to the ultimate principles of this world. That is why, in order to combat against an ultimate skill, one must employ ultimate skill as well.


That is simply how this world works.
~ Volume 6, Intermissio​
 
If it work, I am fine with it @Celestial Pegasus. I just don't want this statement: "They should still be subjected to elemental attacks that could target their weakness." to invalidate the US Users resistances.
 
Everyone who has a unique skill is usually a high magic born, and it was said before high magic born have high magic resistance, so its probably already on the profile.
 
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