TD question

[Sniper670]

I'm curious, but Is this enough for Transduality Type 2?

The way I interpret it is that Arceus is the realization of the chaos which was devoid of dichotomy . NonDuality

Existing in a state devoid of seperation is also another valid point?

There are some (minor) supporting evidence, in that the verse is loosely based on Buddhist Mythology. With him being described as having 1000 arms. And Buddhism being something people worship in the verse.

 

[Vietthai96]

1. No, that not, without supporting evidences you don't go around assume everything is duality
2. Also element of real life mythology is really pointless, since many verse use them in one way or another, it is not something to used in this case

 

[Sniper670]

The first thing llama did was split the world into a Duality. Everything was in a state of Oneness. And he's a realization of that

And so I ask again. Isn't that NonDual by nature?

 

[Vietthai96]

The first thing llama did was split the world into a Duality. Everything was in a state of Oneness. And he's a realization of that

And so I ask again. Isn't that NonDual by nature?

I will not comment on this since this is your personal interpretation

 

[Sniper670]

"At the Heart Of Chaos Where Everything Became One.......... ".

So there was no dichotomy. Everything was One. How else would anyone interpret that?

The first thing llama did was split the world between Existence And Non existence. Then everything followed.

Is that not NonDuality for Arceus?

 

[Vietthai96]

"At the Heart Of Chaos Where Everything Became One.......... ".

This is not oneness by all mean, if you ask me. Because we can interpret this line in many way

The first thing llama did was split the world between Existence And Non existence. Then everything followed.

However i again will not comment on this, since idk about the verse. But sure existence and non-existence is a dual system

 

[Sniper670]

Because we can interpret this line in many way

You never answered how, you'll interpret it. Just gimme one.

It's because everything was One, that is why why he seperated that into Existence and Nonexistence.

The key here is Everything, so he's NonDual in nature. Not just in relation to Existence/Nonexistence duality.

My question again. How is this not NonDuality?

 

[Vietthai96]

At this point you arguing sematic, and interpreting that everything became one must be state of oneness and lack any duality.

 

[Sniper670]

It was because there was no dichotomy that he created Existence And Nonexistence tho.

Unless I missed the part where they specified that "At the Heart of chaos where Existence and Nonexistence bacame one appeared an egg"

I'm honestly not interpreting it like that but take that as you will

 

[Tatsumi504]

"At the Heart Of Chaos Where Everything Became One.......... ".

So there was no dichotomy. Everything was One. How else would anyone interpret that?

The first thing llama did was split the world between Existence And Non existence. Then everything followed.

Is that not NonDuality for Arceus?

Well the things he created has to be stated to be duality in the verse.
I'm not sure everything being in a state of oneness qualifies as transduality either but im not sure

 

[Tatsumi504]

Either way I'll be following this

 

[Sniper670]

I'm not sure everything being in a state of oneness qualifies as transduality either but im not sure

A state of oneness is the philosophy of transduality, it is the Taijiquan symbol on the Transduality page, black and white is Yin and Yang, representing a dual system, oppsite force of existence, and the middle circle is represent oneness, unity

 

[Vietthai96]

While oneness sure is the basis in the philosophy of transduality. Opposite force, dual system need to be specific, not just because they sound opposite of each others in common language......

Anyway since i'm already stated my opinion, i will take my leave

 

[Tatsumi504]

A state of oneness is the philosophy of transduality, it is the Taijiquan symbol on the Transduality page, black and white is Yin and Yang, representing a dual system, oppsite force of existence, and the middle circle is represent oneness, unity

Yeah but it needs to be more specific. In this case the only thing really mentioned is existence and nonexistence which would only be NEP2.

 

[Sniper670]

Yeah but it needs to be more specific. In this case the only thing really mentioned is existence and nonexistence which would only be NEP2.

"All things became one"

So it's not limited to that. Dual systems do not apply to him since the very concept of duplicity is nowhere to be found

Before creation was a concept of NonDuplicity. That's TD 2

 

[Sniper670]

While oneness sure is the basis in the philosophy of transduality. Opposite force, dual system need to be specific, not just because they sound opposite of each others in common language......

OneNess before the idea of Duality

"Nope, this is TD 1"

Anyway since i'm already stated my opinion, i will take my leave

Return

 

[Vietthai96]

Return

No, i refuse

 

[Zeifyl]

No, i refuse

Would you do it for a Scooby Snax?