Tatsumi vs Erza

[Drellix]

Erza doesn't have access to Nakagami Armor

4th Form Tatsumi

Speed equalized

They start 50m away from each other

 

[Cropfist]

Erza. Higher AP and durability along with more experience and versatility.

 

[Drellix]

Erza. Higher AP and durability along with more experience and versatility.

Tatsumi is a trained assassin. He has reactive armor. He has flight and Regenerationn.

 

[Cropfist]

He still hasn't been fighting as long as Erza and she has her own flight with Black Wing Armor.

 

[ZERO7772]

Erza. Higher AP and durability along with more experience and versatility.

Tatsumi is a trained assassin. He has reactive armor. He has flight and Regenerationn.

Tatsumi is like one of the least experience fighters in the entire series xD

 

[ZERO7772]

Erza have a little higher AP and huge stock of weapons and armors at the Top of Nakama Power ..... yeah she can fly as well , i would say tatsumi have impressive regenation since he took fatal wounds but it didn't bother him

 

[NotEvenHuman]

This could go either way, tbh. Tatsumi has Reactive Evolution and Regenerationn, but Erza has versatility and higher stats.

Going with Erza, for now. One attack from her would deal some serious damage to Tatsumi, but he could regen and adapt after taking it some more times. If Erza realizes she's not making any progress, she might try something more extreme like cutting his head off, and she has the AP advantage she needs in order to do this. This would be kinda out of character for Erza though, so Tatsumi could still take the win if he finishes her before she feels cornered enough to make that decision.

Erza 6/10 if she decides to cut his head off or something like that. Tatsumi wins if she doesn't.

 

[Drellix]

Since morals are on, Erza will not be cutting his head.

 

[NotEvenHuman]

Since morals are on, Erza will not be cutting his head.

Standard Battle Assumptions says she's willing to kill. If she's pushed back enough, she could make that decision. Which is why i said that this could go either way. Tatsumi wins if she doesn't decide to cut his head off or if he takes her down before she makes that decision.

 

[ScarletFirefly]

Erza have a little higher AP and huge stock of weapons and armors at the Top of Nakama Power ..... yeah she can fly as well , i would say tatsumi have impressive regenation since he took fatal wounds but it didn't bother him

Erza has quite higher AP than Tatsumi's AP and Durability, 6.3 times higher at the least to be exact, so not exactly a "little" difference.

Anyway, going with Erza because she has way higher versatility and Tatsumi's Regenerationn is way too low to keep up with medium to serious damage.

Also Tatsumi's Reactive Evolution has a very bad time against ever changing ways of attacking, so Erza's versatility is quite a big problem for him battle situation wise and countering his armor also. Not to mention that Incursio should be exposed to the attack some times to be able to adapt to it, by the time it has adapted, Erza can just switch and the process goes on.

 

[ZERO7772]

Long battle would go in tatsumi's favor since he is the type to power up more the more you push him also he adopted her attacks little by little until he get used to ithe have reset againt's a lot of things

 

[ScarletFirefly]

As long as Erza doesn't have to cycle through her swords, Tatsumi's adaptability is useless. Her very high number of swords makes it improbable to happen. Also coupled with her higher AP and Durability she can put him down way before he can adapt to all of her swords.

 

[Drellix]

Tatsumi evolved and got his wings with one encounter with Purge Mode Shikoutazer. The encounter isn't even over and he evolved. So amount of time it takes for him to evolve to resist things is shorter since he is now physically becoming Tyrant itself.

 

[Drellix]

Also, Erza would be doing the same thing Shikoutazer did. And he'll get back up, all healed again too.

 

[ScarletFirefly]

Shikoutazer had but one attack, a perfect scenario for Incursio, with Erza, not so much. Not to mention that she's pretty perceptive of her enemies and will go for the head or drown him with attacks from Water Empress, once she learns he can regenerate.

 

[Drellix]

Shikoutazer had but one attack, a perfect scenario for Incursio, with Erza, not so much. Not to mention that she's pretty perceptive of her enemies and will go for the head or drown him with attacks from Water Empress, once she learns he can regenerate.

Unless she breaks the armor, she's not going to figure out the regen.

 

[ZERO7772]

Well let me ask this , can current tatsumi beat esdeath ?

 

[Drellix]

Well let me ask this , can current tatsumi beat esdeath ?

From the calc, yes, he beats her. As of now, though, we're power scaling Esdeath to Tatsumi so we're not sure if he can or not because he could have actually surpassed her in power. We don't know yet though.

 

[ZERO7772]

Well let me ask this , can current tatsumi beat esdeath ?

From the calc, yes, he beats her. As of now, though, we're power scaling Esdeath to Tatsumi so we're not sure if he can or not because he could have actually surpassed her in power. We don't know yet though.

Wasn't he going toe to toe with her while she was going all out and that was before the emperor fight which give tatsumi another boost ? Honestly i can't imagine him beating erza if he's yet to surpass esdeath

 

[Drellix]

It was stated that Tatsumi was constantly getting stronger and faster as he fought. So as of right now, it's unclear, as this is his newest form with flight and regen which would definitely make Esdeath start worrying about the outcome.

 

[ZERO7772]

Tatsumi is Guts !!! the more you beath him the stornget he become and like i said before unless he beat Esdeath i can't imagine him beating Erza , he most likely will get another boost after this

 

[ScarletFirefly]

Unless Erza breaks the armor? Uhm, she has at least 6.3 times higher AP than his Durability, and that's the minimum, so yeah she has way more than enough power to break through.

 

[Drellix]

Unless Erza breaks the armor? Uhm, she has at least 6.3 times higher AP than his Durability, and that's the minimum, so yeah she has way more than enough power to break through.

He withstood an explosion from Purge Mode Shikoutazer which is Island level with its big attack and at least Small City level with its smaller attacks. Most likely City level considering how big the jump in power it had. And his armor didn't break until Shikoutazer physically smashed him into the ground. I brought up a discussion about this.

 

[ZERO7772]

Tatsumi can definitely more than withstand erza's attack

 

[ScarletFirefly]

Would you mind showing me a scan of Tatsumi withstanding an Island Level attack from Purge Mode Shikoutazer?

 

[Drellix]

Would you mind showing me a scan of Tatsumi withstanding an Island Level attack from Purge Mode Shikoutazer?

Let me clarify. He withstood a smaller, weaker attack from a island level shikoutazer.

 

[ScarletFirefly]

Again, a scan of said feat would be great. Also, a small attack from Shikoutazer is in the Small City level range.

 

[Drellix]

shikoutazer was Small City before Purge Mode. Then he it upgraded and got more powerful.

 

[ZERO7772]

He then stab his back and smack the shit out of him , several seconds "not even 10 seconds " after it he was chilling and got power up xD

 

[Drellix]

The damage he took from the punch shattered Incursio, which makes it over Small City. It's most likely City level because we have to scale the damage to a place the size of Nebraska, or really nearly the size of Nebraska.

 

[ScarletFirefly]

Unless there's a change in Tatsumi's Durability, he won't be able to tank Erza's attack. You can take this up with the Content Revision Board and get more input on the matter.

 

[Drellix]

Unless there's a change in Tatsumi's Durability, he won't be able to tank Erza's attack. You can take this up with the Content Revision Board and get more input on the matter.

I said that is already underway. And also, if he can't tank the attack, that's what the regen is for.

 

[ScarletFirefly]

I already said that Erza will go for his head or drown him with Water Empress, as soon as she learns about Regenerationn.

Also would you mind linking the upgrade thread on Tatsumi? I'm interested how this will play out, one step closer for AgK to the HST.

 

[Drellix]

Thread:386349

Armor can adapt and can still fly.

 

[ScarletFirefly]

Thanks, looking forward to input on it.

 

[Reppuzan]

@Drellix

You still haven't acknowledged the fact that Tatsumi's Reactive Evolution is really slow and requires repeated exposure to stimuli in order to activate (otherwise he would have been able to fight Esdeath a lot earlier).

Erza can also fly with several armors (i.e. Heaven's Wheel and Black Wing).

 

[Drellix]

@Drellix
You still haven't acknowledged the fact that Tatsumi's Reactive Evolution is really slow and requires repeated exposure to stimuli in order to activate (otherwise he would have been able to fight Esdeath a lot earlier).

Erza can also fly with several armors (i.e. Heaven's Wheel and Black Wing).

Incursio evolved with a small, encounter with Shikoutazer. And it's not even over.

 

[Reppuzan]

After Tatsumi was on the verge of death and was already in the process of fusing with him. It took two exposures to Mahapadma and multiple encounters with Esdeath for him to develop ice resistance and even then he was pushed to the brink by fighting her. He's not nearly as adaptive as you're trying to sell him as.

 

[ZERO7772]

@Drellix
You still haven't acknowledged the fact that Tatsumi's Reactive Evolution is really slow and requires repeated exposure to stimuli in order to activate (otherwise he would have been able to fight Esdeath a lot earlier).

Erza can also fly with several armors (i.e. Heaven's Wheel and Black Wing).

He evolved as long you push him more he was evolving during his whole fight with esdeath and since the emperor > esdeath , he had to evolve even more "now he can fly and reganite " esdeath never pushed him that hard during their fight which he didn't had another big boost during the fight

 

[Ragazz]

since i dont know tatsumi, i have a few questions. can tatsumi regenerate infinitely, does he never tire?

also evolving doesnt mean THAT much against erza. erza will blast him with fire, tatsumi will develop a resistance? erza will blast him with water, tatsumi will develop a resistance for that? then there will be a followup with lightning, light, wind and whatnot.