Tatsumaki vs Goku

[Wokistan]

HER AP comes from a TK feat though. It's not like soulhax or concepthax that would work on a scale that bypasses dursbukity, instead it's like fire manip or something that works as an application of AP.

 

[Maraderchik]

In this case her TK can affect enemies who 700 times stronger than her.

 

[Quangotjokes]

No it's just tk, it kinda ignores strength

There are a lot of instances of characters resisting TK with strength. Also, her tier comes from a feat performed with TK.
Bullets can't resist, and saitama just got knocked back a little.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

In this case her TK can affect enemies who 700 times stronger than her.

No it can't. Her tier comes from TK. She can't use TK on people higher than her tier.

 

[Wokistan]

I'm pretty sure that if she has TK feats of outdoing people 700x stronger, she'd just be whatever tier that puts her at. Another explanation is doing it to people with no flight who as such can't out AP the TK due to not being able to apply their force without sometbsom to base it on. You can BFR Kharn by throwing him into space after all due to him weirdly enough having no flight.

 

[Quangotjokes]

In this case her TK can affect enemies who 700 times stronger than her.

No it can't. Her tier comes from TK. She can't use TK on people higher than her tier.

That's a lie, she's done it before. You're just reacing now.

 

[Maraderchik]

I'm pretty sure that if she has TK feats of outdoing people 700x stronger, she'd just be whatever tier that puts her at.

What the heck? I literally give you 2 example where she did that.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

No it can't. Her tier comes from TK. She can't use TK on people higher than her tier.
That's a lie, she's done it before. You're just reacing now.

You're just accusing me of reaching because you have no evidence.

 

[Quangotjokes]

@Wokistan, besides Saitama's case there was 2 times she capable of restrict movements or even slightly harm more powerful beings than Goku.

Such as?

https://s5.********.org/data/84ae6b0a96402246cb222f380f495e9b/x10.jpg
https://s5.********.org/data/afa0fc5c62a01bcedfb3210e44026a2b/x14.jpg

He provided evidence earlier, both of these feats she was weakned as well.

 

[Quangotjokes]

The fact that you didnt look at the scans provided, and ignored them just shows bias.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

What the heck? I literally give you 2 example where she did that.

Bullets aren't higher then her tier and Saitama's an outlier.

 

[Wokistan]

Pretty sure that she's normally way stronger than gold sperm. She was pretty badly weakened there iirc. Also saying she can't affect anyone stronger than her isn't technically wrong. If she somehow didn't get power nulled she could theoretically throw kharn into space due to him only weighing like a thousand pounds and no flight, so there's that.

 

[Quangotjokes]

Pretty sure that she's normally way stronger than gold sperm. She was pretty badly weakened there iirc. Also saying she can't affect anyone stronger than her isn't technically wrong. If she somehow didn't get power nulled she could theoretically throw kharn into space due to him only weighing like a thousand pounds and no flight, so there's that.

Right, she even lifted up saitama, although she also stated he was heavy.

 

[Quangotjokes]

What the heck? I literally give you 2 example where she did that.

Bullets aren't higher then her tier and Saitama's an outlier.
No it isnt lol

 

[Quangotjokes]

She's consistantly used her tk on stronger opponents, not an outlier.

 

[Wokistan]

Saitama's an outlier uf we assume he actually tried, because then tier 5 tats, and unqualified if we don't. Anyway, I'm going to sleep.

 

[Quangotjokes]

No evidence to prove outlier. Her tk can just affect stronger foes to an extent.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

She's consistantly used her tk on stronger opponents, not an outlier.

On one stronger opponent. Who literally has never put any effort into his fights ever. The only reason she could is because he doesn't care.

 

[Wokistan]

It is an outlier because if that were so she could have pretty effortlessly plinked Boros and his ship away. Her being tier 5 is contradictory to her showings, and as such is an outlier. Her TK is her AP, she isn't winning via AP on oeoope who out AP her. Not even voting yet, but actually sleeping after this response.

 

[Quangotjokes]

She's consistantly used her tk on stronger opponents, not an outlier.

On one stronger opponent. Who literally has never put any effort into his fights ever. The only reason she could is because he doesn't care.

Monster garou? Golden sperm? and if we scale in verse tk, psykos restrained bang who's stronger than her.

 

[Quangotjokes]

Direct tk attacks the energy in a persons body, as shown when she used it on saitama.

 

[Maraderchik]

She's consistantly used her tk on stronger opponents, not an outlier.

On one stronger opponent. Who literally has never put any effort into his fights ever. The only reason she could is because he doesn't care.

What is this meaning? He's damn care about it or else why would he just stand in her TK instead of shrug it off instantly?

Golden Sperm is stronger than Tatsumaki.

 

[Quangotjokes]

She's consistantly used her tk on stronger opponents, not an outlier.

On one stronger opponent. Who literally has never put any effort into his fights ever. The only reason she could is because he doesn't care.

What is this meaning? He's damn care about it or else why would he just stand in her TK instead of shrug it off instantly?
Golden Sperm is stronger than Tatsumaki.

weakened tats*

 

[Akreious]

Using Saitama as an example is terrible. He almost never takes things seriously ever, so assuming he was at all trying against tatsumaki is a huge stretch.

Also all these examples of stronger opponents being affected is just dumb. She stopped them for at most for a few seconds before they EASILY broke through. It's like saying that my human body killed a lot of momentum in a car, therefore my AP is car level.

 

[Quangotjokes]

If she can restrain monster garou for a few seconds whiloe weakened, then at full power her tk would be more than enough to affect Goku.

 

[Quangotjokes]

And garou only was uneffected after he adapted to it

 

[The_Wright_Way]

On one stronger opponent. Who literally has never put any effort into his fights ever. The only reason she could is because he doesn't care.
What is this meaning? He's damn care about it or else why would he just stand in her TK instead of shrug it off instantly?

Golden Sperm is stronger than Tatsumaki.

He doesn't shrug it off because he doesn't care.

 

[Maraderchik]

Using Saitama as an example is terrible. He almost never takes things seriously ever, so assuming he was at all trying against tatsumaki is a huge stretch.
Also all these examples of stronger opponents being affected is just dumb. She stopped them for at most for a few seconds before they EASILY broke through. It's like saying that my human body killed a lot of momentum in a car, therefore my AP is car level.

Sure Saitama is not so good measurement material.


Second, if your body capable of completely stop car for a few second then how good you against bicycle?

 

[Maraderchik]

He doesn't shrug it off because he doesn't care.

Okay, then why he break it at all? Why he didn't keep just standing here?... There damn explanation why he didn't do it, HE CAN'T.

 

[Quangotjokes]

See for yourself, he braced himself.

http://*********.com/Manga/Onepunch-Man-ONE/Onepunch-Man--ONE----103-003?id=341911#17

 

[Quangotjokes]

What's stopping tats from just putting goku to sleep with her tk?

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Okay, then why he break it at all? Why he didn't keep just standing here?... There damn explanation why he didn't do it, HE CAN'T.

He didn't because he doesn't care enough to break it.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

See for yourself, he braced himself.

http://*********.com/Manga/Onepunch-Man-ONE/Onepunch-Man--ONE----103-003?id=341911#17

...Where? He raised an eyebrow. That's not bracing for it.

 

[Quangotjokes]

He clearly braced for it, and tried reisting. He isnt immune to her tk, so neither should goku be.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

What's stopping tats from just putting goku to sleep with her tk?

Nothing. I'm just explaining why your reasoning is wrong.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

He clearly braced for it, and tried reisting. He isnt immune to her tk, so neither should goku be.

No he didn't. In fact, he has resistance on his profile for shrugging it off.

 

[Maraderchik]

https://s5.********.org/data/84ae6b0a96402246cb222f380f495e9b/x10.jpg

https://s5.********.org/data/84ae6b0a96402246cb222f380f495e9b/x11.jpg

https://s5.********.org/data/84ae6b0a96402246cb222f380f495e9b/x12.jpg

https://s5.********.org/data/84ae6b0a96402246cb222f380f495e9b/x13.jpg

Sure it's looks like he can perfectly resist this from beginning and just didn't care...

 

[Quangotjokes]

What's stopping tats from just putting goku to sleep with her tk?

Nothing. I'm just explaining why your reasoning is wrong.

It's not though, saitama is like 150 pounds. His will powwer made it hard, but she casn still move him.

She's not equaling or overpowering his physical strength, she moving him with tk.

 

[Maraderchik]

No he didn't. In fact, he has resistance on his profile for shrugging it off.

Dude, he's got this resistance due this fight... it's literally the main reason why he get this resistance in his profile.

 

[Quangotjokes]

He has resistance, not immunity to tk.