Tatsumaki and Psykos Upgrade

[Sus]

How is it not a justification?

It's something like this:

Psykorochi>Saitama (According to Orochi after being one-shotted)>Orochi's Gaia Cannon>Orochi (the calc that is only 1.31x away from Low 5-B)

no one is > Saitama
unless I'm missing something here

 

[Bernkastelll]

no one is > Saitama
unless I'm missing something here

He means in a sense of her knowledge regarding saitama, which is one shotting Orochi

 

[Vizer04]

no one is > Saitama
unless I'm missing something here

They meant Saitama's estimated power.

 

[KingTempest]

still no proof of closing the gap, the argument is the same, but it seems that they upscale from the majestic attire, which closes the gap, as it merges the power of both naruto and sasuke, which is fine

they upscale for being massively higher, which closes the gap

Powerscaling

Powerscaling refers to determining a character's power by comparing them to other characters in their series. The logic behind powerscaling works much like that of transitive relation: if A > B and B > C, then A > C. As such, if Character A is more powerful than Character B and Character B is...

vsbattles.fandom.com

It is possible for a character who is depicted as vastly superior to another in a statistic to be placed in a tier above the other, given that the other character is close to the the next tier. However, this ultimately needs to be decided through case-by-case analysis.

And they're less than 1.1x the next tier. So they upscale.

This 1.3x difference is too big

 

[Urshani]

time to change the standards then

 

[Sus]

He means in a sense of her knowledge regarding saitama, which is one shotting Orochi

They meant Saitama's estimated power.

thank you

 

[Sus]

time to change the standards then

wake me up when this happens

 

[Urshani]

wake me up when this happens

never

 

[Sus]

@Meganova_Stella btw u once asked me for the high 1B digimon scan, i now have it

 

[Bernkastelll]

I mean, if the standard don't allow, then just don't upscale, ppl shouldnt be holding this for more time, however, I still wait the proof of the accusation of ''strawman fallacy'', which still wasnt shown

 

[Sus]

never

 

[Vizer04]

@Meganova_Stella btw u once asked me for the high 1B digimon scan, i now have it

Please don't derail the discussion.

 

[Damage3245]

I mean, if the standard don't allow, then just don't upscale, ppl shouldnt be holding this for more time, however, I still wait the proof of the accusation of ''strawman fallacy'', which still wasnt shown

I literally quoted the post.

 

[Sus]

Please don't derail the discussion.

i have an objection

 

[Nierre]

time to change the standards then

glhf

 

[Bernkastelll]

I literally quoted the post.

which?

 

[Magmag]

It's small to you.

The difference between baseline Moon level+ and Small Planet is less than 2x, yet they are 2 completely different tiers with much stronger people inbetween it. OPM isn't different.

Everybody here is saying "1.3 is too small yadayadayada" and we even have fallacy callers in here.

All I see is an argument from belief. Yall are gonna have to change the site standards if you want a 1.3x upscale gap.

So with your logic Tats>Psykorochi(granted power/blessing)>Psykorochi fusion>Orochi have a less than .3x difference in power? Its not a belief its standard scaling logic if A is massively stronger than B, likewise from B to C, and C to D, then the difference between A and D isn't small enough to fit in a 1.3x gap directly based on the OPM feats.

but you do you... :/

 

[LordTracer]

Okay, I see this has devolved into chaos while I was gone. Damage, Tempest, would you both be fine just Tatsumaki upscaling, since she is superior to Psykorochi, who is superior to Orochi?

 

[KingTempest]

So with your logic Tats>Psykorochi(granted power/blessing)>Psykorochi fusion>Orochi have a less than .3x difference in power? Its not a belief its standard scaling logic if A is massively stronger than B, likewise from B to C, and C to D, then the difference between A and D isn't small enough to fit in a 1.3x gap directly based on the OPM feats.

but you do you... :/

Standard scaling my ass, the wiki doesn't agree with it

Make a thread about the standards or leave it along

Okay, I see this has devolved into chaos while I was gone. Damage, Tempest, would you both be fine just Tatsumaki upscaling, since she is superior to Psykorochi, who is superior to Orochi?

I personally agree with the upscaling, it's just that the site standards don't.

The minimum would be an at least, maybe a possibly moon level

 

[Damage3245]

Okay, I see this has devolved into chaos while I was gone. Damage, Tempest, would you both be fine just Tatsumaki upscaling, since she is superior to Psykorochi, who is superior to Orochi?

No.

Just rate her with an "At least" to show her superiority.

 

[LordTracer]

I personally agree with the upscaling, it's just that the site standards don't.

The minimum would be an at least, maybe a possibly moon level

The site standards don’t give a hard value for upscaling, it says to determine on a case-by-case basis, but okay.

Also it’s a matter of upscaling to Small Planet level, they’re already Moon level+.

No.

Just rate her with an "At least" to show her superiority.

Okay then. Meteoric Burst Boros would have to be downgraded then, he upscales to basically the same degree that Tatsumaki would.

What about the Collapsing Star Roaring Cannon and Saitama, is their upscaling fine?

 

[Sus]

sooo who is gonna handle the standard crt

 

[Bernkastelll]

I doubt that someone will even try

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

sooo who is gonna handle the standard crt

I seriously don't recommend it lol. The last time it was attempted to change the upscaling standards, it was staff only, and it took them months on end. They didn't even REALLY manage to reach a conclusion. It's a cursed topic.

 

[Tetsucabrah]

There was another Orochi thread?

 

[Vizer04]

So, Tats isn't gonna be upgraded to Low 5-B?

 

[Sus]

So, Tats isn't gonna be upgraded to Low 5-B?

nope

 

[Bernkastelll]

Tats, Saitama, everyone else stuck to 5-C+

 

[Vizer04]

This didn't end well, at all...

 

[EmilioRory10]

 

[Urshani]

Tats, Saitama, everyone else stuck to 5-C+

very high end 5-C i will say

 

[Khuluq]

I think it will be an upgrade thread

 

[Bernkastelll]

At least to me, Saitama upscaling to Low 5-B shouldnt be a problem, as he treated Orochi as a ******* baby spliting Water and one shotted Boros strongest attack, which is >>>>> Meteoric Burst, which is >>>> Released Boros, which is >>> Orochi

But hey, wiki rules

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

How did this happen?! at the very least saitama should upscale man, he's literally supposed to scale to massively above everybody who already have a huge scaling chain, a 1.3x difference is too big? At least let the god tier have the neat and clean tier of low 5-B wtf man.

 

[LordTracer]

Can y’all calm down, they didn’t say Saitama can’t be Low 5-B yet. At least wait until Damage and Tempest respond before freaking out.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Can y’all calm down, they didn’t say Saitama can’t be Low 5-B yet. At least wait until Damage and Tempest respond before freaking out.

They said that the gap is too big to be upscaled, so, Saitama cannot be Low 5-B

 

[EmilioRory10]

They said that the gap is too big to be upscaled, so, Saitama cannot be Low 5-B

They said it's too big for a small chain like that to work, I'm pretty sure too big to be upscaled is still 1.5x or more

 

[KingTempest]

is still 1.5x or more

Where are these numbers from?

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Saitama's superiority is above any scaling chain, that's literally how it works in verse, saitama >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone. He should be flat out low 5-B in my opinion.

 

[KingTempest]

Get more staff involved, my approval won't be enough.

Saitama I can see upscaling because of his ridiculously high strength above everyone else. The others, no