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Tanjirou (post breath of the sun mastery+demon slayer mark) vs killua(post nen training)

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Wing didn't say it depends on will. Killua said "He can stop us by willing it?" and Wing agreed. It didn't just frighten them. It messed up their senses, thinking they were in a jungle with beasts, paralysed them and would've killed them had Wing not stopped them. Hisoka wasn't even pressuring either he just made a wall of Nen that they couldn't pass.
 
What makes you think Tanjiro had better training?

BTW, does Tanjiro have a counter to Echo Rhythm?
 
The Calaca said:
What makes you think Tanjiro had better training?
BTW, does Tanjiro have a counter to Echo Rhythm?
It really depends how we scale trainings. Tanjiro's training is equally as hard as Pillars training, that makes one cough blood and puts them at the verge of death, and Tanjiro's was actually shown.

Yeah, his smell. Or See-Through-World.
 
Killua has three ways of programming his instinctive reaction: reacting to touch (useless in most cases), reacting to malicious intent in opponent's aura (used for both offense and defense, nullified by See-Through World), reacting to opponent entering the bounds of a circular area around him (used for defense).

Using En is difficult for Killua, as he isn't sure he can maintain a standard 2 m En for a single minute and he reduced it to 56 cm to sense Ikalgo's bullets, so he probably can't use it in conjunction with his lightning mode. Killua was able to detect Binot in his Zetsu by sensing his movement and slightest sounds, so it wasn't through sensing his concealed aura.

Both of them start with equal speed, so it is Killua's boosted reflexes vs Tanjiro's boosted reflexes (danger sense + his standard precog), and I argue that Tanjiro should be able to reliably dodge and amp.

Tanjiro's smell can detect incoming threat and see-through world allows him to analyse his opponent's body and movements, so they counter Echo. Tanjiro can create afterimages of his own, so he'll be able to adapt to less subtle ones on the spot [1] [2] [3].

The characters are still determined to kill each other per standard battle assumption, so Killua being human will just make Tanjiro want to deliver the killing blow swiftly, which he usually does via. sensing opening in his opponent's stance.
 
if killua used lightning bolt would tanjiro even see it transmutation means a person can change the properties of their aura to mimic something else it's not like conjurer who create real things that even someone who is not a nen user could see so killua should just lightning bolt then go in for the kill
 
Using the actual En is difficult but using a limited version he can do casually and did in combat. Not sure why he wouldn't be able to use it with Godspeed. There's no real indication it was through movement or sounds. He went into Zetsu and they immediately sensed him, Bisky even says "you can't slip under their honed radar with a Zetsu of your level" or something. Killua can also sense people looking at him like Inosuke possibly even through Palms Clairvoyance. So Whirlwind will definitely take Tanjiro into account.

Whirlwind is beyond Tanjiro's boosted reflexes like it isn't comparable. Unless Tanjiro amps straight away he's going to get tagged and immediately killed there's no redemption from him getting paralyzed.

Sure he could counter Echo. Killua can do something similar by analysing aura flow.
 
Tanjiro can sense and dodge the Drum Demon's invisible sound claw attacks, so if he can sense Killua's lightning he should be able to dodge as well.

Killua only used the limited version of En to prepare dodging the airgun bullets, this is different from using it in close combat. 56 cm is less than an arm's length, so the effort probably won't be worth it.

Biscuit did confirm that Killua and Gon sensed Binolt through his movement and sound, and she praised Binolt's Zetsu by calling it 'perfect' which further indicates that Gon & Killua used their normal senses instead of sensing aura. This is the quote: "Useless. Your "Zetsu" is perfect. It's impossible, you can't escapre the attention of those two now. Now, those two can sense almost anything: The slightest movement, the smallest noise."

The See-Through World would explicitly cancel Inosuke being able to sense people gazing at him, so it would cancel that ability of Killua as well.

Akuza has a form of instantaneous reaction; his attacks have been described to have perfect accuracy and it was said that he aims toward his opponent's openings and vitals as if the attacks are attracted by magnets. Yet Tanjiro was able to block and dodge Akaza's attacks thanks to his precog, despite Akaza being faster. Tanjiro should be able to dodge Killua enough to amp.
 
Tanjirou couldn't sense the attack. He knew the attack was coming because he knew which drum the Demon hit to activate it. So when the Demon hits the drum he quickly moves away. For Killua's lightning he would need See-Through World to see the aura and I doubt he would use it before getting tagged by lightning.

It really doesn't matter how he used it. The main thing is he can use it which means it counters Tanjiro's See-Through World and as soon as he touches Killua's aura, he will instinctively react and it's more likely he will get paralysed in close range.

No she didn't confirm it was through movement and sound. She praised their senses for being able to sense as such but doesn't attribute that as to why they sensed Binolt, in any case sensing the movement of a Zetsu user is enough. She even says "they can sense almost anything" which includes Zetsu users, in which they couldn't sense before. That was the main point anyhow, that Killua's senses are already that good without augmenting them with aura. Using En or Tanjiro so much as touching his aura will cause him to react. Even his base senses will detect him.

See-Through World hasn't done that if I recall correctly because only Inosuke has that sense and even then Killua's is likely better than that since he stated he could sense himself being observed through Clairvoyance.

That isn't a form of instinctive reaction, it's a form of battle precognition because he analysed Tanjiro's movements but Akaza isn't faster than him at that moment, they are actually quite comparable in speed it's just Akaza has analytical prediction and extra-senses. "Attracted like magnets" doesn't mean he literally preprogrammed his brain to attack vital spots. It just means he always does attack vital spots with the majority of his attacks. Akaza's attacks here are exclusively close-ranged whilst Killua's are long ranged, like think at this moment even if Tanjiro can dodge lightning will get sent long range. So I doubt he will prevent being stunned. Nen Users also have a form of battle precognition by reading aura flows too.
 
Either way grace is up Killua won by 7. Me, Calca, Oblivion, Dileeden, Strawboi, LordUrien and Kenboxx.

Tanjiro has possibly 2. Shadow and possibly Spooky.

I'll add it to the profiles. Welp nvm already added.
 
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