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@Arnoldstone18 I take it you're voting for Asta?
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Swords Versus Kicks (Pre-Timeskip Asta vs Adventure Arc Mori Jin) (0-2-0)
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Not voting till debate is over, looks like we’re almost done. Then I’ll write a summary and vote.
The chapter numbers of Mori shooting his staff at people forcing them into the sky or ground at CQC. You said you’ll get em, though I’ve continued the series.
The chapter numbers of Mori shooting his staff at people forcing them into the sky or ground at CQC. You said you’ll get em, though I’ve continued the series.
azontr
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Go read chapter 154. Should provide the info.
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Bleh, you gave me several fights and now just one? **** u. I was kinda excited.
azontr
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I mean do you want more than 1 fight???
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You will have all the fights you want when you ******* STARTS LAW OF UEKI, YOU ******* ****
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Yeah, I should be asking you these on discord
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Bump.
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Busy with a ton of revisions, I wish other BC suppoerters could help me out here
Anyway I checked the chapter, I see Mori piercing with his staff and thickening it blow those enemies in half. Well, I have said Asta can take care of that aspect with precog and all but why isn't Mori using his clones here?
Anyway I checked the chapter, I see Mori piercing with his staff and thickening it blow those enemies in half. Well, I have said Asta can take care of that aspect with precog and all but why isn't Mori using his clones here?
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I think the main counterargument is along the lines of it simply has too much range for him to be able to do anything about it. If you can't get out of the way before it hits you, knowing that it's coming is useless.
He's only shown the ability to use them while in Monkey King Mode, which is 6-A. I should probably add to the OP that it's explicitly restricted.
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doesn't the staff start out small until it pierces then grow huge? an aim dodge should suffice.
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Yeoui doesn't exactly take time to grow- It's not 0, gradually stretches up to 100, it's 0 then IMMEDIATELY goes to 100.
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It can extend interstellar distances before a character can complete a sword slash, so. It's fast.
azontr
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I know, liberal.
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fair enough.
Wincon number one for Mori.
azontr
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Uh setto already said thing and my body to sore from workout to type rebuttal, so uh yeah staff fast
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It's also capable of extending Earth-Moon before a javelin thrown at superhuman speeds can cut through the fabric of someone's shirt, so I'd say the speed is consistent at the very least.
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I guess via Jegal scaling or something? Idk. If Jegal reacted to it and him and Mori were swapping hands, then yeah that'd make sense.
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It says on Jegal's profile he reacted to it but his reaction was explicitly AFTER the staff had expanded, with him asking "where did this thing come from?" several panels after it appeared. So he prolly shouldn't scale imo.
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Fair enough. Point still stands that Yeoui is fast. And huge, so even knowing it's coming Asta won't be able to dodge it.
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ump.
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I mean can’t Asta break the staff before he expands it’s width? He can keep fighting with a hole in his torso.
Also can the slower character blitz the faster one profile-wise in speed equalized matches? I mean I know the yeoui is fast af but since it’s not a set speed likebo-ho 8x shit (which would invalidate this match) it can’t blitz Asta due to our speed equal rules, I think it can only be simply faster than Asta in a non blitzing way. So Asta should be fine with his precog and instinctive reactions.
Also can the slower character blitz the faster one profile-wise in speed equalized matches? I mean I know the yeoui is fast af but since it’s not a set speed like
azontr
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It has 4-B durability.
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As I expected
. Cuz Asta’s sword is highly durable too.
. Cuz Asta’s sword is highly durable too.
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Yes actually
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You might have a point here. Mori's also (occasionally) just straight up dropped it on his opponents, how does Asta deal with that?
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The new rules iirc the speed of the character will only be equalized. But the weapon's speed wouldn't be equalized. And the slower one blitzing the faster one doesn't extend to weapons iirc.
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Bump. Also I think the votes are currently 2-0 in Mori's favour.
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Bump.
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If it doesn’t apply to weapons I think Asta could still aim dodge it, should be fine.
What happened to Mori’s 8x speed amps?
What happened to Mori’s 8x speed amps?
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Aimdodge a MFTL+ weapon? That's like saying you could dodge the light from a torch if you knew I was gonna point it at you.
Still has 'em, but due to speed equalisation rules he's not allowed to win by a blitz.
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Wait we’re sticking to MFTL+???
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I mean I can just move out of the way before you turn it on. It’s like aim dodging a gun. Regardless of the speed of the bullet, as long as I move before you pull the trigger you’ll miss.
That MFTL+ thing tho. Is it only because it moved interstellar distances? We probably don’t know how fast it is compared to Mori’s reaction time.
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You said we'll move forward with the assumption that it doesn't apply to weapons. Yeoui is MFTL+.
It extended from Earth to the Moon in less than the time it took for a spear thrown at superhuman speeds to cut through someone's shirt.
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Wasnt there an argument between you and @azontr about this weapon?
How do we know the weapon didn’t get buffed by Monkey King Mode.
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