Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
Choze is Demon level,we know for sure that Choze is not Dragon level becuse the reaction of Gouketsu to Bakuzan is completely different from Choze he Called Bakuzan "huge sucess" unlike Choze who was just "good" and Tiger level is too low so Demon is only opinion that remainRyukama said:One thing, Choze is not a Demon level. He has no stated or confirmed rating.
That said I'm fine with Suiryu being changed back. I've done so now.
Since I'm pretty neutral to this topic and have a bunch of personal, real life problems going on at the moment, I'm just going to let others decide how they want to handle this.
Gouketsu consider Bakuzan huge success only becuse he was Dragon level,if Choze too was Dragon level Gouketsu would say more than just "good",the fact he wasnt care about Choze at all unlike Bakuzan show he wasnt Dragon levelRyukama said:Just because Gouketsu thinks Bakuzan is considerably stronger than Choze doesn't immediately mean Choze is a Demon level.
There can be Dragon levels much stronger than other Dragon levels. Like how Dragon level Gouketsu is vastly stronger than Bakuzan yet Bakuzan's still a Dragon level. Or Overgrown Rover being far greater than Fuhrer Ugly and Gums yet they're still Dragon level.
We were never given an actual rating for Choze, so we can't assume what he is. His disaster level's just unknown for now.
okay, you are SO WRONG. i cant believe they actually downgraded suiryu because of what you said. first of all, there are FAR more evidence to say that choze is dragon level, rather than demon.Ryop said:Gouketsu consider Bakuzan huge success only becuse he was Dragon level,if Choze too was Dragon level Gouketsu would say more than just "good",the fact he wasnt care about Choze at all unlike Bakuzan show he wasnt Dragon level
okay then. let me ask you this. what did gouketsu mean when he said "as well"Ryop said:I dont know what are you talking about with the "i hit the jackpot with this guy AS WELL"
you're saying *********** should have the best translation, with zero reasoning... kRyop said:*********** from what i know should has the best translation and the best place to read manga along with Batoto,and the translation look more suitable than your becuse Gouketsu wasnt care at all about Choze when he died and wasnt excited about him like Bakuzan,he only call Choze "good" with pertty MEH,that make no sense he would suddenly compare him to Bakuzan
by the way you need to calm down dude you sound very angey all the time for no reason
Jonathanlighter said:Gouketsu should be upgrade because after saitama kills him, he says that gouketsu was really strong
That does nothing for his rating.Boros-fan said:Genos compares him to melzalgald.
how the hell is gouketsu comparable to melzalgald. even puri puri prisoner was able to hurt melzalgald, whereas suiryu (who's probably stronger than prisoner) couldnt even scratch gouketsuBoros-fan said:Genos compares him to melzalgald.
He already is at Mountain.Quangotjokes said:Well It's confirmed that Gouketsu beat genos in one punch. Let's just put him at mountain.
"Dragon +" isnt an actually thing. That's fan made.Ryukama said:We've already established that Saitama simply calling someone strong in of itself means nothing. (Boros didn't get upgraded because of that)
We need something far more concrete and less vague. Such as him to directly compare him to someone else.
Heck Saitama directly told Suiryu he was really strong and even said Suiryu he shouldn't get much stronger or he'll start getting bored with power. That didn't mean anything for him in the end.
Plus we know by default Gouketsu can't be comparable to Boros as he's a Dragon level. (Not a Dragon level+) And Saitama hasn't fought Tornado or seen demonstrations of her power at this point. So even if Saitama was comparing Gouketsu to other people, the only people he could be comparing him to are other 7-Bs and 7-As.
Wait did you read a different translatation or something?Jonathanlighter said:Gouketsu should be upgrade because after saitama kills him, he says that gouketsu was really strong
I wasnt saying that Gouketsu was on boros level. Just correcting what you said.Ryukama said:According to OPM Wiki that's a term used in the encyclopedia. And IIRC Boros was stated to be "above a Dragon" or something like that. But even then there is nothing at all to suggest Gouketsu is on Boros or Monster Garou's level.
Even if we interpret Saitama's statement as him comparing Gouketsu to other people. He couldn't have been including Boros or Tornado when he said that. So at best Gouketsu is stronger than all the other 7-Bs and 7-As Saitama has faced.
That only further justifies his current rating. Not uprade him.Boros-fan said:Apparently Genos says Gouketsu is the strongest monster he's ever fought.
Dragon + is a fan made rating. All One said was he was "above dragon". God is "above dragon." Nowhere in the series is Dragon+ a threat level. Nowhere in any official sources.Ryukama said:Do you have a source to Boros only being Dragon level+ due to the HA not seeing him get defeated? I don't even think the HA knows who Boros is. Rather that was an official encyclopedia rating. Also you said "Dragon +" isnt an actually thing. That's fan made." and now you're saying "ONE explained the reason he is Dragon+." Which is it?
Either way, Gouketsu only being a Dragon level by default means Saitama couldn't have been comparing him to Boros.
Saitama hasn't fought Tornado or seen her power yet, so he couldn't have been comparing Gouketsu to her.
The only options left were that Saitama was comparing him to other 7-Bs or 7-As. So no upgrade there.
Even then, I don't know where this "Gouketsu was really strong" statement comes from. In the translation I read, Saitama kinda says the opposite. He doesn't particularly care at all about him and didn't know how strong he was since he nonchalantly one shot him.
I don't believe Gouketsu is comparable to Boros. I'd let him be mountain. I'm certain darkshine could beat him.Ryukama said:Well it seems the current thesis is that Boros may be "above dragon" but not presumed to be God level since he's not explicitly stated to be. And given that Blast never showed up for him.
But it doesn't matter. Whether Boros is "Dragon+" or "God", that obviously means Gouketsu isn't comparable to him. Which was my argument.
This "Saitama called him strong" thing (which I can't even find) means nothing. Since Saitama wouldn't've been comparing Gouketsu to Boros. Or to Tornado. So at best he'd stay 7-A.