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How is it an outlier when it's a move that's not derived from himself. It's from the earth. That's like saying it would be an outlier if Psykorochi eventually became the earth because it boosts her way too high.
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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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Orochi is literally taking power from somewhere shooting it. Orochi isn't outputting the beam.
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Isn't Orochi's durability still an issue? He wouldn't have been amped anymore when Saitama used squirt on him.
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It's actually possible reasons to why Orochi's LS might not scale to Psykorochi
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Ah, k
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Taking that much energy in from the core of the Earth at the speed he does it is what I'm saying. And it still feels wrong for him to be remotely capable of shooting a blast that can effortlessly overpower CSRC, regardless of the method.
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Honestly I'm starting to wish CSRC really was planet level.
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Why are we assuming he actually siphoned off part of the core itself and not just geothermal energy (or whatever Vaccine Man, who also draws energy from the Earth, and HE use)?
Orochi says he'll pull energy from the core.
There's no mass visibly taken away from it, and the path is only left displaced.
The supposed core portion isn't shown rising from the Earth to him, despite the fact that the radius alone would be astronomically than the entire Monster Asociation base if it was a physical mass.
The sphere itself is shown in Orochi's chest as energy.
This isn't a bad thing, though, as the displacement itself may get even higher results.
Orochi says he'll pull energy from the core.
There's no mass visibly taken away from it, and the path is only left displaced.
The supposed core portion isn't shown rising from the Earth to him, despite the fact that the radius alone would be astronomically than the entire Monster Asociation base if it was a physical mass.
The sphere itself is shown in Orochi's chest as energy.
This isn't a bad thing, though, as the displacement itself may get even higher results.
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Murata 3 years said Anime Boros could destroy the whole planet and not just the surface but the stream is no longer available so take it as you will.
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Is Boros narratively supposed to be the pinnacle of strength (besides Saitama)? Why is some Monster surpassing him years later so hard to believe?
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Why was it chosen to be High 6-A smh
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You can't say regardless of the method because the reason it is accepted as not an outlier is because of the reason. Orochi isn't doing this by himself. He is taking energy from somewhere. It's just as good as "God" giving Psykorochi power. Of course base Psykos won't scale to it because it's not her power.
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Because most people think AG will surpass Orochi and Psykos and naturally Boros ¨scales¨ to him because of statements from One
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I think this makes sense
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therefore every one piece character that got burned by akainu should get downgraded to 9-A
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Mass was taken from the core, we can see the disconnect line.
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What? I'm talking about normal magma lol
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is akainu's magma not normal?
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I'm not even saying it's an outlier, although I could make an argument for that if I wanted to. I'm saying it doesn't make narrative sense for him to be capable of outputting a God level attack even stronger than Boros' CSRC. Why are you misinterpreting what I'm saying?
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A disconnected line means displacement, not that mass was taken. It's actually in the opposite direction.
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How does this relate to anything? We don't use anime scaling, and the anime itself already establishes Boros as planetary
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Yeah 6-B Magma is not normal
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i call bullshit lmfao. and everyone knows anime boros is 5-B
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We see it travel through and move parts of the outer core. It isn't just raw energy.
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Boros was the strongest opponent Saitama had faced. The one and only foe, especially at the time, to come even remotely close to giving Saitama a good fight. He could surprise Saitama, impress him, debatably even slightly harm him, and make him get serious. He was a parallel to Saitama, someone who became so strong that no one could face them, and because of that, he suffered from boredom. But eventually, he came to Earth, and found someone who suffered from the same kind of boredom. Boros managed to finally reach his goal of finding an opponent who can match him, although in the end he realized he never had a chance, but unfortunately for Saitama, he was still unable to truly have a good fight, to truly use his strength to the fullest. Honestly, I doubt Saitama is even more than a thousand, maybe not even a hundred times stronger than Boros.
Even with this new feat, I'd wager that ONE and Murata view Boros as capable of beating Orochi even without Meteoric Burst.
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Why does that mean it's not just energy? All other energy spheres in the series have a physical presence.
The displacement lines don't even match up with the shape itself.
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Oh, I just realized. Going by this chapter, Saitama could have stopped CSRC by just squirting some water towards Boros. Jesus I hate this.
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I mean he even shoots him with an amped magma ball.
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Even now, we still have fundamentally different interpretations of that fight. I saw it as proof we should stop expecting anyone to ever match Saitama because Boros didn't come close.
I would say Boros was never Saitama's equal, he was just the strongest opponent he had seen up to that point. Saitama blitzed Boros mid-sentence when he wanted to and killed him with a low effort attack "you didn't bare your fangs this whole fight", for all we know Boros is a hundredth or a millionth or some other fraction of Saitama's full power.
Why not, if he put enough force behind it? It all comes down to how much Saitama wants to humor his opponent.
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It's an energy ball. There's even smaller spheres of energy inside.
The "magma" ball is also millions of times smaller than what we see in the core.
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He absorbed it lol its going to get smaller.
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I never said he's Saitama's equal, I said the two aren't as incomparable as they're typically made out to be. Otherwise Saitama wouldn't have regarded Boros as such an impressive opponent and even close to a real fight.
Because Saitama being able to make CSRC also look like a literal joke is absurd and kind of just stupid. Not that Gaia Cannon is actually stronger than CSRC narratively, just based on calcs.
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If he absorbed it, it's probably just energy like I said. Unless you want to say converting it into energy, which isn't shown.
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Yeesh
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Yoooo Low 5-B???? wtf
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Converting magma into KE wouldn't be too farfetched either.
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Yeah Low 5-B Orochi, sometimes things just go wrong.
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At this point we're doing some serious mental gymnastics to keep Boros weaker than he actually is narratively. We need to revise his scaling.
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The way I look at it, Saitama was only ever humoring Boros. At the end of the battle Boros accused Saitama of lying about the closeness of the fight, I think that holds true for everything else Saitama said as well.
Boros was certainly the most impressive thing Saitama had seen and Saitama is very good at judging power levels when he needs to (one punching Snek and Rover non-fatally while casually demolishing Orochi), so it wasn't a lie for Saitama to call Boros "strong" unless we assume strong to mean comparable in power to Saitama. I don't think he was- he could have treated CSRC like a total joke if he wanted to.
