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Hmm couldn't it also be argued that that's referring to his casual speed as well? He very rarely goes full speed. Likely going to be retconned in the next few chapters also tbh.
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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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I couldn't find it either but i have seen it somewhere before. I think.
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Also would this be Valid?
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Either that, or he can't sense Orochi.
Ok, I found the problem. Someone mistranslated that last line of the first sentence to say he's the fastest.
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Too fast to sense lol to be fair the feats for the s class gradually get faster as time goes on.
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Unless it was removed I believe Saitama caught one too
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Isn't Awakened Cockroach generally overly boasting and overconfident? Why wouldn't it be hyperbole?
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Or he's just not like Genos in any way, which is likely. Remember, this is the guy who already gave up on pretty aspect of humanity before becoming a monster.
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But he can sense killing intent. I don't think there's any implications that he was masking it.
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It's not actually stated that he can sense killing intent specifically, and that really doesn't make too much sense when he can dodge random fire as well. Also, my point is that he can detect someone like Genos' intent, but Orochi isn't anything like Genos. Plus, who says he was even looking out for Orochi's attack before he got hit?
Anyway, like Tural said, his legs were ripped off. The guy's slower, but still fast enough to dodge the brunt of Genos' blast after it was fired (I think he was hit by the blast itself, but outmanoeuvred the explosion, which is actually even more impressive if you really think about it because this guy would have cleared a building in the time of an explosion's expansion).
Anyway, like Tural said, his legs were ripped off. The guy's slower, but still fast enough to dodge the brunt of Genos' blast after it was fired (I think he was hit by the blast itself, but outmanoeuvred the explosion, which is actually even more impressive if you really think about it because this guy would have cleared a building in the time of an explosion's expansion).
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I'm not sure what you mean by Genos's intent and Orochi. Both were going for the kill.
As for the legs thing i believe thats a different argument. Orochi seemed to move faster than his senses.
As for the legs thing i believe thats a different argument. Orochi seemed to move faster than his senses.
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Shouldn't the new chapter be out by now?
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I gotta clock in to work so now I'm gonna miss the released of the chapter but let's hope for speed and stat upgrades all around.
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Again, nothing suggests it's killing intent (and, once again, that would make no sense because he can detect random fire) or that AC could even sense Orochi's intent.
But he's unable to dodge with normal speed.
For example, the Flash can easily see a bullet, but he wouldn't be able to dodge it if his legs and arms were lopped off.
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But he'd be dodging it before it reaches but then again orochi can change course also so idk
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My point there is that even if he can react, it’s not necessarily within his capabilities to avoid it without his feet.
Take many horror movies where the murderer is walking towards their weakened victim. They’re more than capable of reacting and even moving, but they’re just not fast enough.
That all depends on if he can even sense Orochi, or if Awakened Cockroah is really a reliable source.
Also, I doubt that Orochi wouldn’t be FTL if Atomic Samurai is upgraded. So you might have that to look forward to.
Take many horror movies where the murderer is walking towards their weakened victim. They’re more than capable of reacting and even moving, but they’re just not fast enough.
That all depends on if he can even sense Orochi, or if Awakened Cockroah is really a reliable source.
Also, I doubt that Orochi wouldn’t be FTL if Atomic Samurai is upgraded. So you might have that to look forward to.
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I think it is killing intent. Another translation specifies that.
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Do you mean Murata saying Saitama can probably bust a planet? AFAIK it was disregarded since Murata said his words should be taken with a grain of salt.
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@Kin Then it’s probably mislabeled or overgeneralised because it’s not his intent to aim at him. It’s technically killing intent, I guess, but not exactly in the traditional sense (like dodging a brick purposely shot down to kill someone during a firefight based on the shooter’s killing intent).
@Tural It was actually removed before that whole ordeal. Basically, we accepted it because of a claim from the webcomic and the Boros statement from the guide, but we dropped it because the Boros statement was retranslated.
@Tural It was actually removed before that whole ordeal. Basically, we accepted it because of a claim from the webcomic and the Boros statement from the guide, but we dropped it because the Boros statement was retranslated.
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The fact that AC says "What are you doing?" right after being stabbed makes me think he didn't even perceive the horn moving towards him. Who knows.
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I don’t think so, in all honesty. We didn’t (at that point) treat his word as lesser than ONE, more as a proxy of the guy’s authorial intent. So they weren’t really seen as being on different levels.
Plus, if we did accept this stuff, there’d be Mob Psycho scaling.
Another issue, though, is having any backing for his claim, or knowing if AC can even detect Orochi.
Plus, if we did accept this stuff, there’d be Mob Psycho scaling.
I guess that’s true.
Another issue, though, is having any backing for his claim, or knowing if AC can even detect Orochi.
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He says "intent" in general, so I would assume Orochi has at least some intent.
Now, there is no backup for that statement except the existance of other relativistic/FTL moments.
We have:
Genos' sub rel fight against G4.
AS's beam deflection.
FF's moves in the webcomic (correct me if I'm wrong)
Murata throwing Geryu's speed, with Released Boros scaling massively above him.
Another Genos feat (I don't remember why it was disregarded, but it had something to do with the frozen blood on Tatsumaki's hands when fighting Neuron Psykos).
HE's balls called sometimes"light" and sometimes "heat".
Boros' FTL kick, but it wasn't accepted because the formula contradicted the laws of physics. Tho I think his aura should prevent him from breaking those laws and provide free movement.
Now, there is no backup for that statement except the existance of other relativistic/FTL moments.
We have:
Genos' sub rel fight against G4.
AS's beam deflection.
FF's moves in the webcomic (correct me if I'm wrong)
Murata throwing Geryu's speed, with Released Boros scaling massively above him.
Another Genos feat (I don't remember why it was disregarded, but it had something to do with the frozen blood on Tatsumaki's hands when fighting Neuron Psykos).
HE's balls called sometimes"light" and sometimes "heat".
Boros' FTL kick, but it wasn't accepted because the formula contradicted the laws of physics. Tho I think his aura should prevent him from breaking those laws and provide free movement.
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What? Where are you getting that from? If Flashy is stated to be the fastest S-Class and is SoL, but then another S-Class hero performs a FTL feat, Flashy would just scale above that. We do that for everything.
For example: Boros' strongest, and final attack being High 6-A+, but then because he was stated to be stronger than Orochi, we scale him to 5-C+, and Low 5-B
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You're literally picking and choosing what you want. AC literally explains what he means in the dialogue after that. He clearly says that he senses your intent, then moves before you even attack.
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Oh wait this delay actually means it still might come out today but the release was taking longer than usual so it no longer releases Friday in Japan.
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AC doesn't sense the light's intent, but the shooter's intent. There's a big difference there.
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Exactly. If you were to have a gun, and pointing at me, but then because I can sense your intent, I move out of the way right before you shoot it, how would that scale me to the bullet?
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Which is stated to be the same as Vaccine Man's and Choze, VM's in particular being stated to be bio energy from the environment.
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Can you send a scan? From what I remember, it was stated to be similar, not the same.
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And if what you're saying is true, then theres all the more reason not use HE's balls as SoL. How does bioenergy = Beam of Light/SoL?
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I was just throwing more evidence to your point, not the other way around.
