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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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Has it even been put up for a rereview?
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I dunno. You can always ask a calc member tho
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Saitama clearly doesn't control his power when he fights monsters.
We can see this from what he said to Orochi.
only deals damage enough to instantly kill the opponent according to monsters level is power control. Also, the theory of force control would make all Saitama-related feats ridiculous and meaningless. It's hard to believe that Saitama's simple mistake caused a misunderstanding and caused readers to overestimate it.
The theory of power control loses even more credibility, given that all monsters that significantly resisted his attacks are above dragons. It is really ridiculous that the artist destroys the image of ending the opponent with one cut to express the simple mistake of Saitama.
We can see this from what he said to Orochi.
only deals damage enough to instantly kill the opponent according to monsters level is power control. Also, the theory of force control would make all Saitama-related feats ridiculous and meaningless. It's hard to believe that Saitama's simple mistake caused a misunderstanding and caused readers to overestimate it.
The theory of power control loses even more credibility, given that all monsters that significantly resisted his attacks are above dragons. It is really ridiculous that the artist destroys the image of ending the opponent with one cut to express the simple mistake of Saitama.
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What are u trying to get at exactly?
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I think Saitama can control his power quite well actually.
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He can control his power, but he doesn't control his power when fighting with monsters. he said it himself
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I mean He doesn't control his strength when fighting with monsters unless he is a monster who he can feel their strength.
When fighting with humans, of course, he controls his power.
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Ask Beefcake or Rover then. And he was gradually giving more effort in his fight against Boros, there is proof of that.
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I know when fighting Boros, he puts more effort into it.
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Scan? I'm pretty that is never stated. Him being bloodlusted most of the time does not mean he's going all out
His power is inconsistent even against monsters
- The serious punch against EC is nowhere near as powerful as the one against Boros
- Beefcake's head was still intact when Saitama killed him. Whereas stronger monsters like Gouketsu had his head blown off and Orochi was blown to bits
- Rover was only knocked out by Saitama and wasn't exactly blown apart
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Saitama is similar to Jiren, he only punches with enough force to incapacitate, kill or obliterate the target. So yeah, he isn't punching a 9-B monster with a 6-B or High 6-A punch. The stronger his foes are, the more effort he puts into his punches.
We don't know if he punched Carnage Kabuto harder than he punched Rover.
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Likely CK tbh. As he didn't outright kill Rover, as well as the fact that going by the scaling chain Rover should around the level of asura CK
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He didn't expect the attack to end in one blow in early in series. You can tell by looking at the Vaccine Man. It's proof that he doesn't Intentionally try attacks that will kill monster instantly
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I'd also say it's more like he puts a certain amount of effort into his punches, unless he explicitly doesn't want to kill something (Fubuki's guards and Snek come to mind), rather than outright limiting his strength.
Also, he did expect Boros to die in one shot, so he probably used about as much effort as he had with prior monsters, whom he whined about one-shotting. But that's complete speculation on my part.
To be honest, not even the authors have attempted to give Saitama some form of baseline punch level, though, so we shouldn't either. It's obvious that he can go from Small Building level to Multi-Continent level punches at a whim.
Also, he did expect Boros to die in one shot, so he probably used about as much effort as he had with prior monsters, whom he whined about one-shotting. But that's complete speculation on my part.
To be honest, not even the authors have attempted to give Saitama some form of baseline punch level, though, so we shouldn't either. It's obvious that he can go from Small Building level to Multi-Continent level punches at a whim.
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Exactly. Also we kinda already do that
This isn't completely unreasonable, he was kinda surprised that Boros survived. Implying Boros may be more powerful than he thought or more powerful than previous monsters. Not 100 percent sold on either imo
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The author probably intended the degree to saitama puts his best effort into an opponent who lacks Impress(below above dragon) when his one-punch fails or misses. Otherwise, their survival is simply a failure of Saitama's power control, which leads to the reader's overestimation to Saitama's mistaken and is very strange.
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@Six_fold Could you make some of that comment more legible, please? Sorry, but it's a little hard to understand.
Speaking of Boros, why would launching someone scale to his own speed? The kick explicitly surrounds people with energy that eliminates friction.
IK, the point is more that we shouldn't fix what's not broken.
Speaking of Boros, why would launching someone scale to his own speed? The kick explicitly surrounds people with energy that eliminates friction.
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We had a whole discussion about that a while back. But basically according to the calc guys, Boros' speed would need to logically scale to the speed he throws things at due to some mathematical reason I forgot. It apparently actually yielded Boros being FTL, but was ditched as the method couldn't work at relativistic speeds, so they just placed Boros as At least relativistic+
As for the feat itself, this is the OG scan where it comes from. It's stated that he kicked Saitama at near light speed. While his energy is what prevented Saitama's clothing from burning. Neither is related to the other and your source is likely just faulty at trying to explain it
Plus the feat itself is already relativistic using the anime timeframe and ignoring the scan alone
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How does it correlate to Boros launching Saitama to the moon tho?
Boros energy does cancel the friction , yes, but it's not stated anywhere that his energy is the thing that sent Saitama to the moon at near SOL.
The scan doesn't place the 2 things as related
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I mean his organs went flying.
Beefcake is a better example as his body intact, kinda...
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Well, I mean, if any monster can withstood or dodge his punches. Of all the punches Saitama threw at monsters that he didn't recognize as strong(Except Boros and garou), it's better to judge it as the strongest punch. Otherwise, the scene is happen due to Saitama's failure to control his power and know monster power. It's hard to believe that the author created a scene where Saitama's punches miss or fail to kill the enemy simply to display such a ridiculous mistake scene.
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@Emirp My point is that it's not even a normal kick, so we shouldn't treat it like that.
@Six_fold We have reason not to treat it like that, though. Namely the fact that A) he can control his power, and B) we've never even seen his strongest punch because he's never put in that much effort. Even his serious punches don't come close to his maximum power.
@Six_fold We have reason not to treat it like that, though. Namely the fact that A) he can control his power, and B) we've never even seen his strongest punch because he's never put in that much effort. Even his serious punches don't come close to his maximum power.
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It's not exactly some kinda super move either tho. OPM always likes to label it's own special attacks or techniques. The fact that the moon launch kick didn't have any of that implies that it isn't a super move of any sorts but just a regular one.
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I mean maximun strength of his casual power(when fight below above dragon monster)
If he does control his powers against monsters, why didn't he expect that he would end the Vaccine Man in one hit?
And why does he disappointment the outcome? He obviously had a chance not to end the monster in one blow if he controlled power.
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I disagree with that logic too, because it kind of assumes he'd know his enemy's strength to begin with. For example, Saitama is treated as so strong that he doesn't really even recognise Genos' boosts as anything more than a slight amp.
Also, why would he—someone who's grown quite careless due to his seemingly bottomless strength—even put in enough care to cap off his power at an extremely specific strength level like that against such a wide array of opponents?
Also, why would he—someone who's grown quite careless due to his seemingly bottomless strength—even put in enough care to cap off his power at an extremely specific strength level like that against such a wide array of opponents?
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Well, I think there was a misunderstanding. I'm sorry.
And the maximum power was a controversial statement, so it was a bit lacking to express my words. My argument is similar to your opinion on Armored Boros. He put the same amount of effort what he put on his enemies below above-dragon monster he's ever faced when fought orochi and armord boros
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Anyone going to do a sperm tsunami calculation? At least someone?
If at least someone does not do it in the near future, then I will do it myself.
If at least someone does not do it in the near future, then I will do it myself.
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Seth just dropped a video on Goku vs Saitama. The result was quite obvious, but it made me appreciate even more the Boros fight.
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I would say it's consistent given that homeless emperors explosions are shown to expand in width from point A to point B which mean you could have the low end size still apply just closer to the impact of the explosion
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I felt hype when he was talking about Boros vs Saitama especially that part where he said "The hero nobody knows vs The villain nobody knows and a battle no one will see"
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Yeah, that part hit different. It's really making me look forward to the ending of OPM.
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Were you the guy who commented that on yt? There was someone who said the exact same lmao
