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Are you going suggest a specials case for every time someone senses energy across the universe ? ( has to be strong enough to travel far in space that's why characters flare up ki to send Goku a becon to Insta transmit).

Also there is
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Mind it that Goku takes Gas away with several instant transmission. Even one instant transmission can cover billions of light years.
 
Are you going suggest a specials case for every time someone senses energy across the universe ? ( has to be strong enough to travel far in space that's why characters flare up ki to send Goku a becon to Insta transmit).
...yes? That's what we do. They can sense universal distance, they get universal range for sensing.

They can only sense locations they can travel with pure speed? No. Does the verse even have such proof for this? (So Goku can instantly go the afterlife via pure speed even though instant transmission is stated to be required? Just because their energy went there doesn't mean they can go there, nor at the same speed)
Mind it that Goku takes Gas away with several instant transmission. Even one instant transmission can cover billions of light years.
Range and based on the amount of energy sensible. Not speed related.
Also Travel speed is not combat speed. That's like speed scaling 101.
I didn't say it is?

Also, DB topics shouldn't be talked in OPM thread, so i'd rather stop now :d
 
...yes? That's what we do. They can sense universal distance, they get universal range for sensing.
The Ki itself has to reach the person to sense it. If Radio waves were the speed of a snail would the transmitter pick that up ? No. I am not talking about the sensing, I am talking about the KI itself spreading across the universe to be sensed in the first place.
They can only sense locations they can travel with pure speed? No. Does the verse even have such proof for this? (So Goku can instantly go the afterlife via pure speed even though instant transmission is stated to be required? Just because their energy went there doesn't mean they can go there, nor at the same speed)
That's because KI is metaphysical while the mortal body is not. It's sad that I even have to explain something so basic.
Range and based on the amount of energy sensible. Not speed related.
Did you read the Panel ? Goku took him away with several instant transmissions and Gas flew back with pure speed. That's the feat you were moaning about all this time. There it is. Gas flying billions of light years in minutes.

Average OPM fan reading comprehension.
 
The Ki itself has to reach the person to sense it. If Radio waves were the speed of a snail would the transmitter pick that up ? No. I am not talking about the sensing, I am talking about the KI itself spreading across the universe to be sensed in the first place.
That by itself doesn't mean they scale to the characters.

(Also what, i don't think it was ever explained like that. It can be sensed from further distance as the energy is massive, not because it being massive makes it spread faster. Or is there any explanation about it being the main reason rather than a guess?)
That's because KI is metaphysical while the mortal body is not. It's sad that I even have to explain something so basic.
Quite a way to say no.
Did you read the Panel ? Goku took him away with several instant transmissions and Gas flew back with pure speed. That's the feat you were moaning about all this time. There it is. Gas flying billions of light years in minutes.
Um... do we really know if Goku actually traveled billions of light years in this scene? Or absolutely pure guess?

Because if not, a high MFTL+ would still be more than enough.
Average OPM fan reading comprehension.
Real mature.
 
That by itself doesn't mean they scale to the characters
(Also what, i don't think it was ever explained like that. It can be sensed from further distance as the energy is massive, not because it being massive makes it spread faster. Or is there any explanation about it being the main reason rather than a guess?)
So more power means it can be sensed father. Almost like it travels faster or something. And yes it does scale character. Something something KI attacks. Again this argument is really stupid. KI travels through the universe twice in the story Buu vs Goku, Goku vs Beerus. Not just sensing but actual attacks. It's already been decided.

It was their energy that was going to Engulf the macrocosm. Not some sound shockwaves. Energy that they use to fire attacks.
Quite a way to say no.
Even if you have the raw speed, there is dimensional separation. Ki can bypass dimensions as we see all the time in the story. Beerus and Champa fighting would have destroyed Universe 6 and 7 despite then being in U6 and there being a subspace between universes where space and time doesn't exist.
Um... do we really know if Goku actually traveled billions of light years in this scene? Or absolutely pure guess?
Because if not, a high MFTL+ would still be more than enough.
Goku is obviously taking Gas as far away as possible so it's maximum range of instant transmission x how many times he did it. The fact that he is "faster" than a space ship is already into that tier as space ships in Dragon Ball consistently fly across the entire universe like from Earth to Namek even though Namek is outside of king Kai's jurisdiction which means it's in another 1/4th of the living universe.
 
If we are using DB's anime then Buu's blast was going to destroy heaven in one shot. Which is as big as the universe. So anime Kid Buu's attacks can engulf a universe sized body instantly
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Alright I have proven my point. This is a OPM thread. No need to derail it any further.
 
So more power means it can be sensed father. Almost like it travels faster or something. And yes it does scale character. Something something KI attacks. Again this argument is really stupid. KI travels through the universe twice in the story Buu vs Goku, Goku vs Beerus. Not just sensing but actual attacks. It's already been decided.
Yes, this argument really is.
Even if you have the raw speed, there is dimensional separation. Ki can bypass dimensions as we see all the time in the story. Beerus and Champa fighting would have destroyed Universe 6 and 7 despite then being in U6 and there being a subspace between universes where space and time doesn't exist.
The logic is ENTIRELY the same. But not applying it when it doesn't work for the argument is the case here?

Isn't it that twin universes share a neutral space? though it doesn't matter either way as unknown distance + dimensional range included.
Goku is obviously taking Gas as far away as possible so it's maximum range of instant transmission x how many times he did it. The fact that he is "faster" than a space ship is already into that tier as space ships in Dragon Ball consistently fly across the entire universe like from Earth to Namek even though Namek is outside of king Kai's jurisdiction which means it's in another 1/4th of the living universe.
Then he can also travel to the end of the universe to escape based on that very same logic. It can easily be that he's escaping to the ranges that Gas would still choose to follow. The spaceships are canonically incapable of travelling to the center of the universe because of the distance being too high.
If we are using DB's anime then Buu's blast was going to destroy heaven in one shot. Which is as big as the universe. So anime Kid Buu's attacks can engulf a universe sized body instantly
Not knowledgeable on anime's part, so i'd rather not make a comment on that
Alright I have proven my point. This is a OPM thread. No need to derail it any further.
Bye then.
 
You are knowledgeable on no parts not just the anime. In this entire website I haven't seen someone with takes this atrocious
 
No need already hit rock bottom with you. To surpass your takes, I would have to step in the shit named Youtube Shorts powerscaling
 
Where's Milenium Emperor Nova calc?
Here
Definetly a lowball, he should scale to sp^2
It should be fine to just find it's original radius and give a reasonable assumption like 1 second, 5 second, 10 second and 30 second ending.

Even assuming it got faster because of being compressed, it wouldn't get that much faster after all.

Though you'd need to prove they scale to it.
 
Welp looks like not that significant of a feat in the current scaling
I don't think many would bother to do anime profiles for OPM, considering how long it'll take for it to reach a point where it's too different.

So it's irrelevant rn :d
 
So... Will season three follow the pre-redrawn route? That would be confusing, unless they made their own changes to make the redrawn make sense.
 
Anime might become its own continuity if it's using pre-redraw versions, could this make using the anime maps for the cities invalid?
 
Anime might become its own continuity if it's using pre-redraw versions, could this make using the anime maps for the cities invalid?
No type of that thing is used for anime maps. Anime changing it's direction via a later decision doesn't mean much to past seasons.

Like, this doesn't affect ovas or using timeframes. Or season 1 and 2.
 
From what I understand, this would increase the constellation's speed feat to MFTL, is that correct?
 
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