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Strongest One Punch General Discussion Thread v2

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Back from where we started.

https://img.***********.com/cdn/manga/125/5102/024-025.png

There does seem to be some sort of gear mechanism that changes the layout of the room.

https://img.***********.com/cdn/manga/125/5102/026.png

https://img.***********.com/cdn/manga/125/5102/030.png

Throughout the fight Garou and Orochi seem to be fighting on flatter area than the previous scan.

https://img.***********.com/cdn/manga/125/5102/038-039.png

https://img.***********.com/cdn/manga/125/5102/0531.png

view of the room from different angles.


I'm not saying it's for sure the same room but it's a possibility.
 
For the TK crushing, basically atomization has been used for compression in some calcs since compressing solid matter like rock or concrete to get it that dense basically would need to go through the step of nuclear fusion and change it into a new solid substance.

https://www.narutoforums.org/xfa-blog-entry/avengers-bit-feats-issues-151-200.35973/

This blog has some discussion on it.

"Basically after a certain point you no more can compress things without severing its molecular bonds so yeah pretty much"

There was a calc for Prototype 2 that had a deal where a human sized dude compressed a city's worth of biomass into himself for example that had some good discussion about it.
 
A rough calc of Psykos' feat I guess

  • Volume effected = Starting Volume - End Volume: 31,175,485.535 - 1,288.249 = 31,174,197.286 m^3 or 31,174,197,286,000 cm^3
  • Result using the suggested atomic thing: 31,174,197,286, 000 * 4.168e+12 = 1.2993405e+26 or High 6-A
As a note I still feel its not correct to use atomic destruction here with no explict statement (mostly since HIgh 6-A is such a massive outlier that its hilarious)

  • Result using Compression Strength (assuming its the strength of Concrete used in a high rise building) x Volume = 6.8948e+7 pascals * 31,174,197.286 = 2.1493986e+15 pascals
  • 1 pascal = 1 Newton per meter = 1 joule
  • 2.1493986e+15 pascals therefor equal 2.1493986e+15 joules which is High 7-C
 
12,232.65*31,174,197,286,000 = 3.8134304e+17 joules

if you use concrete melting values (12,232.65 J/cm^3) and your scaled volume affected the feat is mid 7-Bish

Idk even melting wouldn't account for messing with the density that way.
 
I doesn't seem to be melting in the panels, just compressed down to a super small level. So I don't think anything but compression would work in this context. Well I guess the atomic thing can also work if you accept that Psykos > Saitama's moon jump.
 
Well, that's how physics apparently work if you break down the density of something and change it. If we need a statement of that when its visually shown...? Sounds like lolphysics to me if you need a statement beyond that to infer AD :P
 
Oh I just realized some massive mistakes I made with the volumes since I used diameter for the radius and not halfed the result

  • Corrected Sphere Volume = 3,896,935.691 meters^3
  • Corrected Crushed Sphere Volume = 161.03 meters^3
  • Corrected Atomized Result = 1.6241757e+25 Joules or 6-A
  • Corrected Pascal Result = 2.686748e+14 Joules or 7-C
For the second result assuming that it needed to be Surface Area rather than Volume

  • Ellipsoid Surface Area = 1.2e+5 meters^2
  • Sphere Surface Area = 143.14 meters^2
  • 6.8948e+7 pascals * (1.2e+5 - 143.14) = 8,263,890,783,280 pascals which would be 8,263,890,783,280 joules ot Low 7-C
 
So is there anyone that can implement the speed upgrades.

It should be added to Sonic and Sea King (obviously), The version of Garou that fought Genos, Base Carnage Kabuto, Post G4 Genos, Sonic, Orochi, Rover, Awakened Cockroach, Gums, base Hellfire and Gale, and Royal Ripper.

Anyone else? Possibly Melzardgard and Gouketsu too right?
 
Its quicker to those who don't scale than those who do. I'll start updating everyone if we're all fine with it.
 
Who doesn't scale?

Uh, All members of the house of evolution aside from Kabuto, PPP, TTM, Suiryu, Choze, Zombieman, A class heroes, Marugori, Do-S, Fubuki.

Bakuzan might scale by virtue of being a dragon level? He should be superior to the likes of Awakened Cockroach and Deep Sea King in every way, but I guess that's up to interpretation.
 
Bakuzan and maybe Beefcake would get a "Unknown, likely X" rating. PPP scales, TTM scales through Garou (I believe), Zombieman is weirder but I wanna say he scales, Blizzard scales through Rover since she blocked a blast and fought Psykos.
 
Iirc Child emperor dodged a couple water beams from ENW, so his speed could get an upgrade too.
 
Tetsucabrah said:
Today's episode was dogshit.
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no shit, of course it was dogshit.

but good news you guys, the new webcomic chapter was just released about 20 min ago.

http://galaxyheavyblow.web.fc2.com/fc2-imageviewer/?aid=1&iid=114

here we can see that flash can actually barely keep up with an extremely casual saitama.

the context is that saitama has to land one blow on flash to win, and obviously saitama was super casual, flash was able to dodge about 4 hits iirc

so flash should get a likely relativistic upgrade
 
The scene of Saitama trying to catch the Flashy and soon after Flashy going behind the back of Saitama and Saitama doing the same. I remember Julius vs Licht keke
 
I'm still iffy on just making him Rel. Garou, without abandonment, was still much faster than Flashy. And even when he used abandonment he outright stated it was likely impossible to avoid hits from Saitama without body reading.

If Flashy gets an upgrade it should only be "likely higher" or "possibly Rel" imo.
 
I think Flashy to be Relativistic is good, since a casual Saitama is and Flashy can react to it.

I think they might kind of list, like:

Saitama: Relativistic casually, higher (when he is fighting seriously).
 
In this case we have stated evidence of a canonically superior person to Flashy with a power boost saying he cannot deal with Saitama's casual speed. I do get adding a lilely higher or possibly rating, but I'm not in support of just a direct upgrade.
 
USklaverei said:
I think Flashy to be Relativistic is good, since a casual Saitama is and Flashy can react to it.
I think they might kind of list, like:

Saitama: Relativistic casually, higher (when he is fighting seriously).
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Actually yeah you're right.

Flashy Flash has been portrayed consistently as one of the fastest characters in the series, he shouldn't be below Geryuganshoop.
 
I've seen a method used in other calculations that can be applied in the Flashy talent, I'll do this, the results have increased.
 
Wasn't your FF calc rejected though?
 
Yes, but that was a wank huge, but now I'll do it differently, it's a method that has been accepted before.
 
Well Flashy Flash was shown to be able to dodge a pre abandonment Monster Garou for a while who's attack should be much faster than Geryuganshoop attacks so I think Flash should scale

I think Flash is atleast faster than Ogon seshi who lost to Garou before he became pre abandonment Garou

Ogon Seshi should scale to Geryuganshoop as well because Ogon Seshi was able to blitz a weakened Tatsumaki who was able to crush many Koro Seshi at once and took out Multi Koro Seshi who should be above Geryuganshoop

So

Flashy Flash upgrade to Relativistic

Perhaps Ogon Seshi to?
 
Tetsucabrah said:
Also are we done looking at the TK feat?
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You can copy paste my above stuff in a blog and get it checked out I guess. But none of the results will lead to an upgrade besides lifting strength.

Well Flashy Flash was shown to be able to dodge a pre abandonment Monster Garou

While he did dodge like four hits, he gets countered instantly right after and even thinks to himself "so fast" when Garou hits him.

Ogon Seshi should scale to Geryuganshoop as well because Ogon Seshi was able to blitz a weakened Tatsumaki who was able to crush many Koro Seshi at once and took out Multi Koro Seshi who should be above Geryuganshoop

Some issuses I have with this

  • Being stronger than people does not instantly mean that you scale to a specialized attack noted by someone to be extremely fast. Especially when we don't scale Orochi to be that level despite WoG explictly placing him above all of Boros' commanders
  • GS blitzing Tornado though would be sub-rel not rel
Perhaps Ogon Seshi to?

I get upgrading him to Tornado's current speed but not Rel. Flashy Flash is different since he has more examples of being possibly higher, but I'm against a straight upgrade. I think "At least Sub-Rel, likely Rel" works better.

That or just wait for @USklaverei's thing first. It may place Flashy Flash at that speed level on its own.
 
webcomic flash dodges attempts from saitama last chapter multiple times, somethiing genos, and sonic couldn't do.
 
"The are two life forms moving at high speeds within range" "Not just high, incredible speeds. is master engaged in battle"

Those statements should be enough evidence to scale flash to casual saitama.
 
Quangotjokes said:
webcomic flash dodges attempts from saitama last chapter multiple times, somethiing genos, and sonic couldn't do.
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I do get arguments for scaling Flashy Flash up, but "He did better than Genos or Sonic" is not one of those arguments.

hose statements should be enough evidence to scale flash to casual saitama.

Why? Even without scaling Flash is thousands of times faster than Genos.

But since I'm coming off as a bit dismissive I'll just leave it to you all for voting.


Flashy Flash becoming Rel

Should GS scale to Tornado

 
oh this is a vote thread?

And i meant they couldnt dodge his attacks, but flash did it on reaction alone.

As for GS he shouldnt scale to tats speed, but the other s class couldnt see his movements so there's that.
 
I would rather it not come down to a vote in the end, but I will let my stance be known anyway.
 
There, to me at least, seems to be enough disagreements and arguments to warrant something. I don't want to just go "no" and expect everyone to agree with me.

Unless you meant that I should make an actual CRT. I'll do that if you think its a good idea, and to make the thread a bit less cluttered.
 
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