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Strongest Non-Smurf Low 2-C (Discussion)

Giving Ecang in spot 5 is actually kinda higher, since Mori, Medea or Nier outrange him?

Cuz he only has universal+ range
 
Megaraptor149 said:
Giving Ecang in spot 5 is actually kinda higher, since Mori, Medea or Nier outrange him?

Cuz he only has universal+ range
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Yeah, but the battle is by SBA that means that the distance is 4km.

You need large size type 9 to be not affect by him

Which is what Mori has
 
Dragonite007 said:
Yeah, but the battle is by SBA that means that the distance is 4km.

You need large size type 9 to be not affect by him

Which is what Mori has
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Mori actually has Large Size (Type 9) eventhough it's likely, idk about Medea or Nier has it or not
 
Dragonite007 said:
Yeah, but the battle is by SBA that means that the distance is 4km.

You need large size type 9 to be not affect by him

Which is what Mori has
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Medea has clones spread throughout the infinite multiverse, making the killing of the one 4km away inconsequential to her as a whole.
 
DontTalkDT said:
Medea has clones spread throughout the infinite multiverse, making the killing of the one 4km away inconsequential to her as a whole.
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Sounds like she can get 3rd spot alongside with Veldora and Dracula. Although she actually incon with Parca
 
Dragonite007 said:
The problem is that she incon with the 3rd, the 4th and the 5th
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Also Parca incon with Veldora but beaten by Dracula in 3rd, that's why she got 4th spot and Meanwhile Dracula and Veldora is incon. Actually if Medea got incon by them in 3rd spot it's not problem put her in 3rd spot
 
Dragonite007 said:
The problem is that she incon with the 3rd, the 4th and the 5th
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Couldn't she at least incap the tree by keeping its universe perpetually deleted?

Edit: In fact, can't she just kill it? I see no regeneration or abstract anything amongst the 3rd level abilities.
 
Megaraptor149 said:
Which one?
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Ecang

Note: Spoiler Alert (This contains major spoilers for Pursuit of the Truth) Ecang was a powerful life-form that existed for eons, first born of the soul of a Sublime Paragon whose True World was destroyed. Upon said True World collapsing into the Paragon's heart, Ecang was born from the...
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DontTalkDT said:
Couldn't she at least incap the tree by keeping its universe perpetually deleted?

Edit: In fact, can't she just kill it? I see no regeneration or abstract anything amongst the 3rd level abilities.
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Probably yes, but can she beat Nier?
 
Is make sense put Ecang in spot 7th due to he can't deal with Mori, Medea and Nier because of lack of range?

Actually Mori has bunch of hax to do anything to Ecang
 
Dragonite007 said:
Probably yes, but can she beat Nier?
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I mean, even if not, she should then get a shared spot or something. No reason she would be the definitive bottom of the circle.

That said, is Death multiversal in range in the Universe level+ key? And could Nier find Medea's clones in the multiverse? What is the stuff in the weakness section about? And how does she survive Infinity Destroyer?
 
DontTalkDT said:
I mean, even if not, she should then get a shared spot or something. No reason she would be the definitive bottom of the circle.

That said, is Death multiversal in range in the Universe level+ key?
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For the profile in her Low 2-C key she just have Low 2-C range
 
Infinity Destroyer is pretty hard to get around. You essentially need some form of acausality or High-Godly Regen to survive it, and even with just high godly you’d still be put in a death loop and killed endlessly.
 
wait Ecang is only universal range+?
if so, Inchoate World would easily absorb him alongside the entire cosmos.
 
DontTalkDT said:
I mean, even if not, she should then get a shared spot or something. No reason she would be the definitive bottom of the circle.

That said, is Death multiversal in range in the Universe level+ key? And could Nier find Medea's clones in the multiverse? What is the stuff in the weakness section about? And how does she survive Infinity Destroyer?
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if it is spread out in a 2-A universe then probably not. the cosmology caps at 2-B before going tier 1 so her dimensional travel probably won't reach all 2-A universe.
That weakness section about abstract doesn't really apply to Death anymore that's an old weakness that hasn't been updated.
I've read infinity destroyer and uh
I'm not sure Death's case is that due to her nature, she is basically deathless that is above the deathless of a regular primal beast
erasing someone across past present and future might work and all possible versions of herself that are if she will get the chance to use it since Death and Nier hold nothing back when it comes to killing. other than that all those killed by Death can be resurrected by her and be used to have all their memory powers etc.
idk if that would actually let Death use Medea's infinity destroyer but I doubt it'll happen since Death doesn't like resurrecting someone she doesn't love (AKA anyone not nier). but she could resu a clone with different memory and make her subservient

at best it would just in cap into an endless massacre that will never end causing infinite clones and infinite multiverse.
 
Crt for skydweller having 6D resistance to causality, fate and memory manip got passed so you can nuke granblue characters from the rankings now. I won but at what cost
 
TheGreatJedi13 said:
can mori permanently put medea down then?
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Pretty sure medea can share in 3rd spot alongside Veldora and Dracula. Both can't deal with Medea clone which span in Multiverse+, because both range only Universal+ and Low Multiversal. But idk if Medea hax can work on them or not.
 
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TheGreatJedi13 said:
didn't veldora have that skill that can snipe people that is outside 2-A cosmology
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I see in Veldora profile, his range only universal+. But he has Immortality (Type 9) which is reside in imaginary space Rimuru which has 2-A structure size.

That's why he can incon with Dracula
 
What exactly is the current discussion right now? I just saw Mori get 5th spot???
 
I have literally 0 idea what's going on but just saying; there are things that have yet to be applied to Mori's profile, which will be applied in future revisions.

So, uh, yeah, he's somewhat not up to date.
 
If Mori moves to 5th spot then Medea should have at least that, as they shared the spot before, no? I mean, Medea can't be defeated by Ecang for exactly the same reason.
But yeah, since Veldora has no multiversal+ range she should at least incon, so she could also get to 3rd.
TheGreatJedi13 said:
if it is spread out in a 2-A universe then probably not. the cosmology caps at 2-B before going tier 1 so her dimensional travel probably won't reach all 2-A universe.
That weakness section about abstract doesn't really apply to Death anymore that's an old weakness that hasn't been updated.
I've read infinity destroyer and uh
I'm not sure Death's case is that due to her nature, she is basically deathless that is above the deathless of a regular primal beast
erasing someone across past present and future might work and all possible versions of herself that are if she will get the chance to use it since Death and Nier hold nothing back when it comes to killing. other than that all those killed by Death can be resurrected by her and be used to have all their memory powers etc.
idk if that would actually let Death use Medea's infinity destroyer but I doubt it'll happen since Death doesn't like resurrecting someone she doesn't love (AKA anyone not nier). but she could resu a clone with different memory and make her subservient

at best it would just in cap into an endless massacre that will never end causing infinite clones and infinite multiverse.
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I mean, Medea gets a chance to use it due to having a huge reaction speed advantage. Medea can pretty much throw everything she has against Nier, before she gets her turn.
 
DontTalkDT said:
If Mori moves to 5th spot then Medea should have at least that, as they shared the spot before, no? I mean, Medea can't be defeated by Ecang for exactly the same reason.
But yeah, since Veldora has no multiversal+ range she should at least incon, so she could also get to 3rd.

I mean, Medea gets a chance to use it due to having a huge reaction speed advantage. Medea can pretty much throw everything she has against Nier, before she gets her turn.
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Granblue got kicked out from list, because upgrade smurf 6D
 
DontTalkDT said:
If Mori moves to 5th spot then Medea should have at least that, as they shared the spot before, no?
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I mean Medea can no longer actually kill Mori since once I get around to applying recent revisions he's gonna resist CM Type 2, Soul, Mind, and Biological Manipulation on a 4-D level so he's basically gonna neg Infinity Destroyer which was Medea's only way to kill him-
 
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