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They got upgraded to 9C.Udlmaster said:I believe Get Backers was after that Spot, so:
@PhoenixEarl
It's your time to shine.
There's nothing to downgrade, honestly. People just have misconceptions about his protection.Lightbuster30 said:An official downgrade thread needs to be made first.
Whether it covers it or not isn't the issue. The 1-A intervention wasn't passive but outside intervention, that's all. 7x isn't much tbh. Plenty of characters can tank their own attacks returned 7x just fine.PsychoWarper said:So Cain is losing his spot since your saying the Attack Reflection doesnt cover stuff like Mind Hax?
I agree with this.Iapitus The Impaler said:682 should be removed since he currently can't be used in VS matches. I nominate The Dunwich Horror. I can start putting him against potential rivals as long as they are not stomps
However, the matches will need to take place in mountain or hill areas since, as SBA dictates, if a side is particularly disadvantaged by central park then it should be moved
Has he beaten any 2-A's from D&D or Digimon?ZacharyGrossman273 said:No, I'm fairly certain he is
He stomepd the Ur-Dragon, Madoka, and Kriemhild Gretchin.
Not how SBA works, just because a character doesn't in-character do a certain action without specific condictions it doesn't mean the battle has to be thereIapitus The Impaler said:I can start putting him against potential rivals as long as they are not stomps
However, the matches will need to take place in mountain or hill areas since, as SBA dictates, if a side is particularly disadvantaged by central park then it should be moved
Your examples are essentially why I said, in general it's more complicated. For this case it doesn't change things, though.Warren Valion said:I disagree with your assessment.
Because then, what about things like summoning? People can summon beings that are stronger than them to fight and attack for them, but that isn't seen as an outside influence.
Look at someone like Amakasu Masahiko as an example of this. He's 5-B himself but can summon 4-A beings.
Or what about things like Type 8 immortality or Regenerationn when it's based on someone reviving someone else?
Reinhard from Shinza Bansho can, within the range of his Gladsheimr, can and will resurrect any destroyed souls of his legion, so they can continue fighting forever.
Does that count as outside interference?
Dude, you do know that Cain's Attack Reflection is the thing that kills people, right?TacticalNuke002 said:Except Cain doesn't summon the Presence, the Presence shows up or does something. And its not passive protection or immediate, it just happens sometime later. I believe Reinhard resurrecting his gang is passive, so its not intervention. Summoning is an ability and hence fine.
I am fine with passive 7x AR and resurrection. But not with "Presence gonna smite". While its a thing in DC, by our site rules, its outside intervention.
Here's Matoi Sumeragi, who is a similar case but doesn't fall under outside intervention.
Yeah but AR wouldn't reflect someone removing earth from existence and BFRing Cain.Warren Valion said:Dude, you do know that Cain's Attack Reflection is the thing that kills people, right?