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Then, someone change his resistance from "harm" to "everything" cuz his profile doesn't suggest that he's strong at all.CrimsonStarFallen said:Cain isn't over protection over just harm, otherwise any dude with mind hax or Bfr on Vertigo would beat him.
From what evidence I have heard off the fact that nobody mind hax's or BFR's him is probably from the fact that certain 1-A's would would squash you if you tried, not resistance.CrimsonStarFallen said:Cain isn't over protection over just harm, otherwise any dude with mind hax or Bfr on Vertigo would beat him.
Why would you reward a dude for murder? Granted, eternal life is horrible, but still...DontTalkDT said:From what evidence I have heard off the fact that nobody mind hax's or BFR's him is probably from the fact that certain 1-A's would would squash you if you tried, not resistance.CrimsonStarFallen said:Cain isn't over protection over just harm, otherwise any dude with mind hax or Bfr on Vertigo would beat him.
In other words politics.
How about having all the powers of the mages and being above them.Said power include higher dimensional erasure,plot had and fate hax that works on type 5 acausals plus moreZacharyGrossman273 said:Unnafected by the destruction of type 2 concepts
Also I'm going to need better reasoning than "Caine is the strongest High 4-C because he's a world of darkness character"
I don't know the character beyond what I have been told. His page explicitely says he has a contract with the Dream of the Endless and that he is under protection from The Presence, though. So they probably have their reasons.TacticalNuke002 said:Why would you reward a dude for murder? Granted, eternal life is horrible, but still...
He is above the mages who can affect 8D beings with their magicZacharyGrossman273 said:Also
Why does Caine even have 8-D hax in his high 4-C when that's not explained on his profile?
What do you mean, "not explained".ZacharyGrossman273 said:Also
Why does Caine even have 8-D hax in his high 4-C when that's not explained on his profile?
And no one in WoD (Besides the Abstracts) have AP on that level.ZacharyGrossman273 said:You can have 8-D AP but be a 3-D being...
There are a few more complicated things to consider on a general level.TacticalNuke002 said:If Cain's protection isn't fully passive, then wouldn't that be outside intervention and not allowed in a vs scenario?
Cain's protection comes from his Mark. A blessing, which is allowed.TacticalNuke002 said:So, if The Presence's intervention in punishing the guys who mess with Cain isn't passive, then isn't it outside intervention then?
The mark isn't exactly a passive blessing. Its more like a warning that says "Don't mess with this guy or we 1-A Gods will give you a bad time". But they still have to directly intervene after someone messes with him.Warren Valion said:Cain's protection comes from his Mark. A blessing, which is allowed.TacticalNuke002 said:So, if The Presence's intervention in punishing the guys who mess with Cain isn't passive, then isn't it outside intervention then?
That's what the mark is, a declaration. All who strike Cain will be stricken upon seven-fold.TacticalNuke002 said:From Cain's profile:
"Judge Gallows struck a hit on Cain, but instantly regretted it as he realized that Cain can't be harmed by anyone because of his Mark. He was swiftly killed by The Presence through different weird accidents."
This incident isn't passive retribution at all. Presence has to personally do something rather than have a blessing or something do it for him automatically.
Looks like outside intervention to me.