Strongest Character for Every Tier 19

[Assaltwaffle]

@Zach

That alone wouldn't stop Altair since she can reverse the causality of attacks. The only reason Doom stomps is because he leaves Low 2-C to join the cosmics with prep time.

 

[PsychoWarper]

Well it looks like Dooms gonna beat Nanashi but outside those two and Altair is there anyone else in the conversation?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Nanashi would stomp Altair easily

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

LAVos ties with Altair, though it loses to Nanashi.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

I honestly think lavos would beat Altair but eh.

 

[The_Causality]

Actually i'am playing at the game where Nil is and she actually erased space, the abstract entity of the universe and Time loop the embodyment of time itself

She is pretty OP

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Haxed? Sure. Strongest 2-C? No.

 

[The_Causality]

Finished the game (this is pretty fast though)

Well, for offensive stuff, she Erased the memory of an abstract entity, literally created the concept of space (and ended it)

She can fight contenders like WF/Nanashi or other guys, i can maybe make a tournament

 

[PaChi2]

Definitely Doom is the strongest Low 2-C with speed equal (he is like MFTL+ against Nanashi's Immesurable).

 

[Assaltwaffle]

Well Doom as a Low 2-C just tier jumps out of Low 2-C. If he had to stay Low 2-C he absolutely isn't the strongest.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

If dooms high 1-B absorbtion is banned, nanashi due to 10-D hax

 

[Assaltwaffle]

His absorption isn't banned, no. It's just that Doom with prep time leaves Low 2-C. If he doesn't have prep and can't Tier jump he loses to plenty of other Low 2-Cs.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Can we even allow "fully equipped Doom" when he's never been fully equipped in canon?

 

[PaChi2]

Well Doom as a Low 2-C just tier jumps out of Low 2-C. If he had to stay Low 2-C he absolutely isn't the strongest.

Define tier jump. Can he become High 1-B on his own without outside help or what?

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

is it bad that i think Noth Potestas may be a legit match against Shion for 6-C?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

He can't, it's just that his absorbtion works on high 1-Bs

 

[Assaltwaffle]

@Zach

That's not what was suggested in the Doom vs Altair thread. Most believed that with his day of prep Doom would leave, become a High 1-B, and fight Altair as that.

Without prep it would be a much more fair fight.

 

[Wokistan]

He has access to high 1-B tech. With that sort of prep he could theoretically drain an abstract or something.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Without prep, altair probably stomps, even though IDK recreators.


According to weekly, outsider is becoming 2-C rather than limited 4-D high 3-A, so

Dead meme takes high 3-A

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Can we even allow "fully equipped Doom" when he's never been fully equipped in canon?

 

[PaChi2]

Let me introduce you to the concept of Composite.

 

[Assaltwaffle]

He has access to high 1-B tech. With that sort of prep he could theoretically drain an abstract or something.

Yeah that was basically the consensus.

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

is it bad that i think Noth Potestas may be a legit match against Shion for 6-C?

 

[PaChi2]

Wot.

People were arguing for Doom to start out as a High 1-B?

If we say Low 2-C doom, its Low 2-C doom. Not High 1-B.

 

[Assaltwaffle]

Well, you know. ƒÿÂ

 

[Wokistan]

It was low 2-C doom with prep, to which people said he just doesn't stay low 2-C.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Let me introduce you to the concept of Composite.

There's a difference between composite and Prep and Composite being said to be a standard match

 

[PaChi2]

Then its not Low 2-C doom.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Isn't Low 2-C Doom just Doom with the Cosmic Cube tho?

 

[PsychoWarper]

Then dont give him prep, if Doom has prep he will tier jump.

Its similar with 4-A reinhard and his 1-A growth, if he wins its still considered 4-A Rein that won.

 

[Assaltwaffle]

Isn't Low 2-C Doom just Doom with the Cosmic Cube tho?

I think he also has a machine from Galactus.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Then how does "Doom with prep" equal "Doom at Low 2-C"?

 

[Wokistan]

The thread they're talking about had him at low 2-C and with prep. It's not relevant here unless someone's gonna add a doom with prep.

 

[The_Causality]

Who are all contenders for 2-C ?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Orcus, tempest, white face, pontos, Alice, Magnus, and devilman

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Orcus, tempest, white face, pontos, Alice, Magnus, and devilma

pontos is getting upgraded to 2A si he is out

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

@Peter1129

Can I have the layout of the original post?

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

Would Yvraine have a chance against High 5-A Cthulhu?

 

[Wokistan]

Ahzek ahriman is stronger than her. We made a match with him vs Cthulhu and it stagnated.

 

[The_Causality]

Well

Put Kumagawa forb 8-A