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Strongest 5-D Characters on the Wiki

yeah but she has to win, not incon


Well DBH characters beats almost all Wizard101 except for spider, because he has AE concept based. But Arale stalemate with him because she exist inside and outside the plot simultaneously, resulting in a incon, which you put them in a tie due to that reason. The same logic is applicable to the Primodials themselves, DBH characters can't interact with them yet they are unable to put down Arale permanently because she exist within and outside of the plot, resulting in an incon as well.. So I'd say that all 3 of them are in a constant tie for 5th place.
 
no the same logic does not apply because not a single DBH character can defeat the primordials, only arale can incon

while primordials beat every single DBH character and can incon arale

How about the Wizard101 tho? Can the primordials even beat them?
 
someone would need to make a match and see who wins


bro...

this guy might just stomp DBH

man we really need to get CM 1 back

I do think Wizard101 should win,. If it wins actually all three of them should be tie in 5th.
I'm even doubting how are the Primodials above D? the insane things D has in his arsenal are too much for the Primodials imo, but D get stomped by DBH chars tho so idk.
 
uh

hmh, this is iffy, his justification for his concept hax seems to came from a Reddit qna.

 
nah its crazy coz the reason they're so high is because of their type 1 CM abstract existence which dbh cant interact with
kratos lost to dbh goku
I mean, Zeus literally turns into a Type 1 CM abstract that far and wide surpasses the Primordials, and he can't even touch Hope Kratos. How exactly did Kratos lose when he has CM1 invulnerability?
 
he lost because of type 2 info EE and because hes a type 2 abstract, not type 1
the argument was that cm 1 invul does not protect against passive info delete

i completely forgot about zeus
Except, Hope acts as an independent Type 1 AE CM1 force actively protecting Kratos. Sure, he might be AE2, but he's covered in a protective AE1 CM1 layer and might as well be that level for practical reasons. You still fundamentally have to get through Hope first to get to Kratos.

Either way, those conditions prolly won't matter since IIRC, DBH Goku underwent downgrades or some shit, IDEK.

EDIT: Also I would like to add, going by this logic, Fear Zeus would dogwalk, and Hope Kratos, being protected down to the conceptual level by an AE1 CM1 force, should murk them even harder.
 
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4th spot should just be Characters from God of War honestly. Zeus is objectively Number 3 in his own verse.

Athena has an even better version of the Primordials argument, given people that can interact with the latter can't interact with her. Kratos is the strongest in the setting.
 
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