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Street Fighter Overhaul

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Continuation of this thread: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3690021

Non-canonical Elements in SF:

Status: Resolved(Waiting for the canon page revision thread)

E. Honda's Meteor Feat:

Status: To be considered an outlier until further notice

So after some debating we began to notice that a lot of character profiles rely on scaling to characters and not their own feats so this thread is now about calcs for SF characters that need them and possibly some supporting calcs and calcs that could upgrade the verse, any suggestions are welcomed as long as they aren't obvious outliers (See E. Honda's ending).

Feats that preferably need to be calced:

Oni's Volcano Feat (Feat in video form: https://youtu.be/J4iAjYaxDz8?t=103)

Fang's Arcade Ending (Feat in video form: https://youtu.be/Rb_lSB74tuQ?t=41)

Gill's Revised SFIII Ending (Feat in video form: https://youtu.be/Gi-NrKEOC58?t=812)

Necro's SFIII 2nd Impact Ending (Feat in video form: https://youtu.be/tuokQbWj8ZM?t=22)

Seperate Task:

Seperate Profiles for Evil Ryu/Kage and Oni
 
Has somebody created non-canon profiles for Oni and Evil Ryu yet?

Also, is somebody willing to find scans for the feats that need to be calculated and then ask the calc group for help?
 
Okay. Thanks. You should politely ask some calc group members (not DMUA, as he is too overworked as it is) to help out here in this thread.
 
While we're at it
Screenshot 20190704-232850
Screenshot 20190704-233347
(Sorry for bad quality)

These two feats could be useful for finding out whether or not E. Honda's feat is an outlier.

Hagger is considered to be around or above Honda and because of his absence in street fighter it shouldn't drastically change the scaling already established.

https://youtu.be/dZoFjZkns4Y and since canon is being discussed (or was) then this would be another good showing for both Honda and Zangief


The only other characters that scale above these grappler boiz are Sakura, Kairn, Main Shotos, Sub-bosses and final bosses so the scaling works. Kairn and Sakura got a huge buff in SFV and they don't lose to anyone that's weaker than the others mentioned.
 
N-nani said:
While we're at it
Screenshot 20190704-232850
Screenshot 20190704-233347
(Sorry for bad quality)

These two feats could be useful for finding out whether or not E. Honda's feat is an outlier.

Hagger is considered to be around or above Honda and because of his absence in street fighter it shouldn't drastically change the scaling already established.

https://youtu.be/dZoFjZkns4Y and since canon is being discussed (or was) then this would be another good showing for both Honda and Zangief


The only other characters that scale above these grappler boiz are Sakura, Kairn, Main Shotos, Sub-bosses and final bosses so the scaling works. Kairn and Sakura got a huge buff in SFV and they don't lose to anyone that's weaker than the others mentioned.
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What are those pics? They are very low quality, could you give a link to a video where we can see the scene more clearly?
 
good but 6-C seems like it will be rejected though i personally think this would only scale to the god tiers and the god tiers are so far above a lot of characters that a case could be made that this isn't an outlier and if it's not....6-C akuma returns at last!
 
Genericstickman said:
Well the only weird scaling is SF3 Ryu beating Alex but that could be seen as an Outlier
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it's implied that gill purposefully lost the fight because he saw alex's potential(or something) it wouldn't be the first time he lost a fight on purpose(see the SFIII: 2nd Impact ending)
 
It should be, nothing in the game is contradictory and all the final fight games take place before street fighter
 
@Lavcore Belger is never shown again in canon and he is officially dead after revenge and the only reference to him afterward was that he is dead so it's not impossible
 
anyway i think we should wait for more calc members to comment on the gill calc as this is a huge upgrade.
 
Ryu and Alex dont scale to it, Gill threw out the fight vs him most likely

Plus Ryu lost to Oro which says that Ryu has a long way to go to even reach anywhere near a God Tier of the verse level, meanwhile to Akuma he is impressed

This scales only to Gouken, Akuma, Oni, Oro, Evil Ryu/Kage
 
Also it could be helpful if another feat is calced for god tiers to support the 6-C, that way it can be set in the stone the rating for them
 
You can message a few other calc group members directly to confirm the Gill calculation if you wish.
 
Also I don't think that FFR is canon.

I was just wondering, who does Hugo scale to? He's far stronger than fighters like Poison and in his 3S ending we see that he beat Ryu and Ken, but to who does he actually, reliably scale?
 
i swear to god one of these days i'm gonna make an offsite calc eval thread so we don't have to eval them in seperate CRT's.

@squitwo

offsite calc on DA=questionable(like most offsite calcs)

also gill is comparable to base akuma not shin or oni.
 
Ah, thanks for clarifying that and I understand they might not always be reliable, but I did look over the calculation and it mostly seems to be in order. I may not be a calc member or anything but I can say I've done plenty of KE feats like these before. And even with that said, Gill's feat would make Oni's more consistent at least.
 
i think it would be preferable to have a calc for that feat here instead.

plus there was only one comment on the calc itself.
 
Antvasima said:
You can message a few other calc group members directly to confirm the Gill calculation if you wish.
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Anyone?
 
Didn't Capcom release an official top 5 characters in terms of raw power list? Would all the characters there qualify for the same statistics as Gill?
 
Oni was at the top, I think.
 
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