"Stone Wall" category

[PrettyFearMachine]

In case you don't know, Stone Wall is a type of character whose defense is far greater than their offense. In terms of VS Battles Wiki, this would mean that Durability of these characters is way above their Attack Potency. In short, this is an opposite term for Glass Canno.

Here are the examples:

• Saber (Fate/stay night) with Avalon

• Yakou Madara with barriers

• Tart
• Darkness
• Shielder

I'm not sure if adding a new category is really necessary, but it certainly won't do any harm.

 

[Frieza_force_soldier_100]

I know of a few others.

Botamo- His whole gimmick is that while he is way weaker than his opponents, they can't get around his durability.

Muggshot- Low Building AP but Building durability

Michael Myers- The H20 timeline version has Street Class AP but Wall Class durability

Jackie Chan Adventures- Without the Ox Talisman, he has Building Level AP but City Block Level durability.

 

[Kaltias]

I mean, i suppose that it wouldn't cause any harm to add it

 

[BowserRulesAll]

Seems fine to add.

But wouldn't that be a lot of work?

 

[ALRF]

I don't mind this at all. There's no harm to adding it

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Looks like a good idea.

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

Another example would be Composite Human.

 

[Wokistan]

Kharn is like this too, just within his tier.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

should be fine

 

[DMB_1]

Obligatory

Like, one of the craziest examples.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Shuckle

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

@DMB 1

The Stone Army of Stone Walls, eh?

 

[ALRF]

Valerian Trifa is a better exemple oVo

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Shuckle

A stone wall and a glass cannon?

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Who can add the categories though?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Magnamo and Bryweludramo fit this category.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

I thought we had already an(unofficial) term for it. It is called "Tank".

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

@Homu

We don't have a category for that. Yet.

 

[DMB_1]

@DMB 1
The Stone Army of Stone Walls, eh?

Let's will build a wall of Stone and Legos with Low 2-C durability to make all glass cannon lovers jealous ovo

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

SCP-682 and robbie rotten

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

@Homu

We don't have a category for that. Yet.

Hence why I said "unofficial".

 

[DMB_1]

@ZacharyGrossman273

SCP-682 doesn't have higher durability normally, he just develops defenses, and usually his AP goes higher alongide his resistances and durability as well. Not the best example.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

@Homu If you didn't notice, I was asking for a category's addition. I'm aware of term's unofficial usage.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

I'd be fine with this category

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

@Homu If you didn't notice, I was asking for a category's addition. I'm aware of term's unofficial usage.

I mean, why "Stone Wall" tho? No offence, but the naming just doesn't sound right. Why not Steel Wall or Diamond Wall or something else like "Tank" maybe?

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

I got the term from TV Tropes, which also uses the "Glass Cannon" term. And I myself don't really like "Tank", while others sound rather forced.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

• Shrugs

 

[Andytrenom]

"Diamond wall" doesn't really scream durability to me like stone wall does.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Stone Wall is by far one of the most popular term, so I'd prefer it over others.

 

[The_Everlasting]

I was actually contemplating adding this a while ago.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

All those Yume Nikki characters with 4-A Dura and Tier 9 AP.

 

[Reppuzan]

I suppose this should be fine to add.

I'm personally ambivalent on this, but there's no real harm in this even if the term is much more obscure when compared to Glass Cannons.

 

[Frieza_force_soldier_100]

Interestingly, I know of a character who could sort of qualify for both Stone Wall and Glass Canon depending on context:

Regina Mills- Physically her AP is only Athlete Level while her durability is Building Level. Yet, at the same time, with preparations, her AP could be Large Planet Level, while her shields and protective charms can only go up to Town Level.

Someone said that they thought Tank would be a better category. Well, Muggshot is listed with that category. seems someone failed to realize that while we do have that category, it is meant for literal tanks.

 

[NextGen24]

Margwas from COD: Zombies should fall into this category, they have Street Level to Wall Level striking strenght but are inmune to small explosives such as grenades or XM-53, possibly Small Building Level to City Block Level durability. The only way to kill them is shooting them in their yellow mouths.

 

[Jinsye]

Snow Golem

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Alright, the category is here, feel free to add your characters.

 

[TripleSHunter]

Would immortality and regnerative abilities factor into this, or would it only take raw durability into account?

Zeno from Akatsuki no Yona comes to mind. He only has 9-B+ AP and Dura, but he's immortal via divine protection and has very strong regenerative capabilities— to the point he speculates he could survive the complete physical destruction of his verse.

 

[Antvasima]

I am fine with the category itself, but it should only be added to character profiles when the difference between AP and Durability is considerable, not comparatively minimal. It seems like Frieza force soldier 100 may have added it to some inappropriate pages.

 

[Andytrenom]

Like, if durability is an entire tier above AP or something like that?

 

[Frieza_force_soldier_100]

I tried to add it to Steven Universe the character, but his article is locked.

What about Triple S Hunter's question?