Steven Universe Discussion Thread

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

I thought the Peri episode was hilarious. A bit of a toneshift but it was a nice change of pace from the last few somber episodes.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

So wait...does Sard have 4th Wall Awareness?

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

So wait...does Sard have 4th Wall Awareness?

Probably? I kind of had that impression when i watched it...

 

[WeeklyBattles]

"She's not in this episode, do we still have to pay her?"

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Nikki Manaj reference?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yup, plus the whole bit about her not existing if you dont buy SU merch and the Property of Cartoon Network when they showed the Opal video.

 

[Grudgeman1706]

I think that might be her character itself, she sorta treats everything as a performance or a show, just look at her talking to the audience(their is none). Although, their is maybe a chance of 4th wall awareness. I doubt it though, it's just her character as she is treating everything around her like an actual host with a crew and eudeinece and everything.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I'm gonna need a link, because I really need to see season 4

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

So guys, i kind of found several more SU calcs made as of the episodes of the SU Summer Bomb event.

The ones in particular i saw where of Peridot's durability "feats" in the Gem hunting episode involving that blue color like corrupted Gem. The results of her getting in stuff like having a boulder crashed on her got like about Room level dura. Pretty neat and seems pretty reasonable. But i presume y'all would think it that it would be of around that level even w/o them, yeah?

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

So, Sard seems to have some degree of Matter/Spatial/Something manipulation, but not applicable in combat.

@Cal if you still need it, I think Kiss has it.

http://***********.me/Cartoon/Steven-Universe-Season-4

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Its pretty much pocket reality manipulation limited only to her room in the temple

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Thanks, Dark.

To everyone else who stated that she had 4th Wall Awareness, she soooo does.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

On Sardonyx's abilities page on the SU wiki, they consider her having 4th wall awareness and "Temple Manipulation", which is basically what y'all were talking about of her being able to manipulate stuff only in her room.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

I loved all the little callbacks in the episode like "its just you and me now" and "I guess you're strong in a different way". Great episode.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

That was pretty cool to see them again on the new episode, yeah.

Also, does anybody want to say what i put earlier about there being calcs for Peridot's dura based on that one recent episode with the corrupted gem? Personally, i think that there's something to go by for that even if we don't use them (they got resulted in Room level, btw).

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Speaking of that Peri episode, everyone realize how that was a big reference to Roadrunner and Wil E. Coyote?

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

Yep and I loved every minute of it. It did feel a little out of place but it was too hilarious of an episode to bother me.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Speaking of that Peri episode, everyone realize how that was a big reference to Roadrunner and Wil E. Coyote?

Now that you mention it, yeah it did seem like a reference to that. Good times when i was watching it.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

So did anyone else notice that in "Know Your Fusion", the Sugilite strength test went Pearl, Stevonnie, Garnet, Opal, and then Sugilite in an ascending order? Smoky maxed out at hitting around Garnet level, which would imply Smoky is relatively = Garnet in raw power. However, the scale itself also seemed to imply Opal > Garnet, which I didn't expect, actually.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

I also noticed that. Smoky being = Garnet, if maybe a bit stronger seems pretty consistent with her current feats.

I guess Opal > Garnet makes sense, since Pearl and Amethyst can't be that dramatically weaker than Garnet, so combining they logically surpass her.

 

[MarvelFanatic119]

Another thing I want to bring up, you think we should bump Rose's Sword to Possibly High 6-A?

It was used to shatter Pink Diamond, I believe that was when Eyeball (or any of the other Rubies) talked about how Rose shattered her.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

@Azathoth: Is that something we should take seriously or...?

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Not too seriously, but it doesn't actually contradict anything. It pretty much verifies what we already knew. I just didn't expect Opal to be above Garnet level, mainly because she has fewer showings, but it does make sense.

 

[OishiLover75]

Can Gems be petrified?

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Can Gems be petrified?

"Petrification - Due to their physical forms being hard light projections, Gems would be completely immune to petrification in the traditional sense of converting organic matter to stone. However, some methods, such as magic, reality warping, and matter manipulation that can directly affect their gemstone would likely still work on them."

Takened from WeeklyBattles blog about the Gems.

 

[OishiLover75]

Say they would lie to Galand. Would they be petrified because of his commandment?

 

[Nibbler3100]

So what does it mean for Stephen's stats being able to forcibly move through the full G-forces of FTL Spaceship Travel in Episode 11 of the 4th Season?

I don't think it does anything for his Speed but being able to Tank it and Move in it is incredible

 

[WeeklyBattles]

tfw YD revealed that a Lapis Lazuli can terraform a planet...

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

tfw YD revealed that a Lapis Lazuli can terraform a planet...

That good feeling when further support for High 6-A Lapis

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Man, this Necro bump tho. xD

I also saw the preview episodes and i like it.

Also Azzy, there's a recalc of the Ocean Tower feat of Lapis that was done at NF that got to like 20 Exatons. Just some more short of 5-C SU. xD

And yeah, this does further support High 6-A Lapis ye~

 

[WeeklyBattles]

^ Did it get changed at all? Can we apply it? It would be a nice lil upgrade of High 6-A to High 6-A+

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

It has not. TTGL has yet to respond to Mike's comment regarding his use of the escape velocity thing whatever.

It's still the same value from the looks of it.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

That feeling when potentially low-end 5-C top-tier fusions and Diamonds

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Should we make a seperate thread regarding about it? Cause TTGL did something regarding the bit i said of it and that's why it's higher on High 6-A.

Also, i gotta get back to getting into SU.....but oh, other series to check out tho...

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Possibly? Could be a good way to upgrade anyone above Lapis by a solid enough amount to "At least High 6-A, likely 5-C" or whatever.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

It's possibly best do that in case one of our calc members find a problem in it.

And yeah, that works too. Like i said the result of the new one is just short of 5-C.

Here's the calc of it, btw.

 

[Jinx666]

Well, in the newest episode 'That Will Be All' (This may be a spoiler so read the rest at your own risk),


YD mentions in her song, that a Lapis Lazuli's use is to Terraform

To Terraform means that something, mainly a planet which would also make sense for colony building in Homeworld, is transformed completely in order to sustain life, in this case, gem life

Could this possibly support the idea of 5-C Lazuli if her type of gem is capable of terraforming planets

Of course, this idea would have to be explored more in order to get a clear understanding, but its worth a mention

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

As been told by Weekly like two times already at least. ^^;

Assuming this calc linked above that i provided y'all went were to pass, a possibly/likely 5-C Lapis isn't out of the question...for the most part. Cause we're all aware that Lapis did this feat way back at....Season 2(?) with just a broken gem and was effortless about it still. Considering the closeness of it, there's possibly no doubt that she could be 5-C at full power and with a full gem.

But still, we'd need a separate thread to talk about this as well as having the calc team to look into the calc to see if it's alright to use.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Cross it was the season 1 finale, but yeah if it gets evaluated it could definitely be potentially 5-C Lapis and top tiers, considering her first feat was casual, in a weakened state with a broken gem, and her second feat was when she was mentally unstable due to being fused into Malachite and having her powers resisted by Jasper.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Yup, indeed. If there's little to no problems with that, i can see Lapis as a potential 5-C given that. And of anyone that's stronger than her by a considerable(right word to say?) to also being likely 5-C or just solid 5-C.