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Steven Universe 7-A"+" Problem

If adjusts are needed, then there is something to talk about. If Garnet's AP is coming from Smoky instead of Jasper, we'll have to change the justification.
 
Other staff members are either waiting for the conclusion or disagree with this.

Plus, until your CRT is created (and accepted) the stats are still wrong.
 
The majority of scaling comes from stronger characters being able to oneshot Rubies and characters on or above the level of Rubies my dude
 
I actually do have some issues with the calc that currently gives 7-A ruby but idk if I can get around to that.
 
Lemme link to all the stuff:

Feat: https://steven-universe.fandom.com/wiki/File:The_rubies_gets_hit_by_Roaming_Eye.gif

Calc: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...9/Steven_Universe_-_Are_you_a_real_REAL_ruby?

NF version: https://www.narutoforums.org/xfa-blog-entry/are-you-a-real-ruby-steven-universe.36320/

So a few issues with this: Firstly, the images are gone so I have no clue what they're calcing to get a third the speed of light. It sure isn't that gif, judging by the speed the background moves at.

Secondly, fairly sure that's calc stacking anyways. With impact calcs and stuff we only use the speed in the actual feat itself. Can't just calc the ship's movement at a third the speed of light then assume that for every other calc, that is literally textbook Calc Stacking. If the 1/3 SOL doesn't come from the actual feat it's using for KE, why are we using that as the speed instead of what's displayed in the actual scene? Super high tier Katana ZERO due to relativistic speed when?

I have school though, so I can't deal with another super long SU downgrade, but yeah. These are problems.
 
Ah, I didn't realize until you pointed it out that is blatant calc-stacking.

This will pretty heavily affect the verse.

Also, I notice that the Verse page doesn't have a list of accepted calculations on it so I'll quickly make one.
 
Pearl had the ship locked into a set speed, its perfectly safe to assume they were going 1/3 SoL in that scene
 
Pearl had the ship locked into a set speed, its perfectly safe to assume they were going 1/3 SoL in that scene
 
I could say it's "perfectly safe to assume" that Fiftee is moving as fast as he can when he is in situations that can possibly kill him, but it's still calc stacking for me to make him tier 6 or whatever he would be off rel KE.
 
Why would it be calc stacing it there is an in-universe stantement that their speed has not changed since they started moving?
 
Though i agree there is an issue with it in that in the scene in question theyre actually going FTL but meh
 
Oh, yes, that's a clear case of calc stacking. We don't assume the ship is moving at such speed in any instance it travels, it doesn't work like that. I've commited that mistake before so I can tell you that you're right about it, Wok.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_u6jZtnNsk

They flew from Earth to the Asteroid belt in about 17 seconds

Distance from earth to the asteroid belt is at a minimum 2.2 AU, or 329115316000 m

329115316000 / 17 = 19359724470.6 m/s

19359724470.6 / 299792458 = 64.5 c

this isnt even considering the fact that they would have flown to another galaxy in only 70 years at that speed
 
@WeeklyBattles; where was it stated that was the Asteroid belt?

Also, I don't think it was stated that the Human zoo was in another Galaxy.

Also, it's impossible for them to be travelling that fast since they weren't even at lightspeed without the warp drive.
 
Damage makes a lot of sense here. I don't recall them stating that they had reached the asteroid belt.

And honestly, the asteroids very slowly passing by the ship as they flew through the area doesn't indicate speed that's anywhere remotely near lightspeed.

On top of this, we don't really see any comparable feats for Rubies in the series. I mean, in the movie, she nearly canonically got killed by a large falling anvil, so at the very least it can be declared an outlier.

Damage3245 said:
Also, it's impossible for them to be travelling that fast since they weren't even at lightspeed without the warp drive.
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Highlighting this, the show goes out of its way to explain when they pass/reach lightspeed.
 
Damage3245 said:
If we want an alternative feat to calculate the Ruby's durability; there is the example of one of the Ruby's surviving atmospheric re-entry and crashing into the ground.
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Rubies are notoriously resistant to heat, so I'm not sure if calcing the heat of re-entry would be accurate for durability.

The force of them hitting the ground would be ideal, although be sure to consider the crater that is formed when she hits the ground. We see no sand melting, just a small crater, which indicates an impact far less potent than actually going through re-entry.
 
Reentry KE actually usually isn't very high with regular weights due to terminal velocity and all, a small crater like that would seem reasonable. The only impressive space falling feats ik of are ones where people weigh thousands of kilograms.
 
Durability across the show does vary quite wildly from my memories, I mean it was considered impressive by steven when peridot wasn't poofed by falling stones and other rather, unimpressive things. Jasper got poofed by a metal shard after becoming corrupt.... not saying we should judge based of these just looking back the durability of gems wasn't the most consistent thing...

How do we even get the weight of beings comprised of light?
 
Seriously tho, even if the 7-A feat is an outlier and uses calc-stacking, wouldn't Rubies still at least scale from Sapphire since they're made for combat while Sapphires aren't?
 
The pen or the sword said:
Jasper got poofed by a metal shard after becoming corrupt.... not saying we should judge based of these just looking back the durability of gems wasn't the most consistent thing...
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I mean, to be fair with Jasper, she got the absolute crap beaten out of her by Smokey prior to getting poofed by Peridot.

The pen or the sword said:
How do we even get the weight of beings comprised of light?
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Well, their mass is adjustable based on how much gravitational force is being applied to them, so I'm not sure if we could get a concrete answer without making a bunch of assumptions.
 
Fair (Its been a while since I watched the show in it's entirety so kinda slipped my mind sorry!) my point was simply there dura seemed to be inconsistent....
 
Rubies should definitely scale above Sapphires

Also someone needs to recalc Sapphire's storm creation feat with the recent storm revision
 
But does the storm scale to dura tho
 
Yeah, Sapphire shouldn't have Low 7-B durability. Right now there is no reason for it given on the profile.
 
The link to the actual feat on her storm calc is also broken.

There are some 8-A physical calcs to scale to but maybe someone should check those as well

Mass energy was given the no in the old series of threads though.
 
Holy shit why does every calc have like 8 million broken links?

The profile gives no reason for scaling at all.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Rubies should definitely scale above Sapphires
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Honestly Sapphire's feats are more just Environmental Destruction. We never really see her use her ice/weather abilities for serious combat and we certainly don't have any way of translating them to physical strength and durability that could be translated to Rubies.

Even then it shouldn't scale to physicals, which in turn wouldn't scale to Rubies as a result.
 
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