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He'd be pretty familiar with the Daelamm color scheme Hurricane
So that's it?
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He'd be pretty familiar with the Daelamm color scheme Hurricane
My biggest gripes with accepting 500 meter minotaurs really is how oddly specific it is tbh.
Because why would Blizzard make the Terran standard capital ship be twice as small as the Protoss capital ship when redesigning both for SC2. That'd be aesthetically weird to look at. Carriers certainly never got smaller so why should battlecruisers.
They're often portrayed as comparable to each other as shown in media like Shadow Wars.
SC1 standard carriers and battlecruisers are on par in sizes and lorewise the SC2 carriers only got a sleeker updated design. Both of them are mainly evolution in tech rather than size differences.
The manual shows us minotaur specs when showing off a battlecruiser design and their weapon/tech specs as I've said before. It'd be reasonable to assume that a minotaur was the one used in size chart even with blizzard's insistence of only showing off 1 battlecruiser for the scales even when they mentioned other classes in the battlecruiser description page.
Robear was pretty much forced to make minotaur and behemoth sizes even in the field manual.
WoL in-game Hyperion model looked much closer to a minotaur's design back then.
Plus every battlecruiser looked the same in the Char arc.
The Blizzard approved Dark House SC2 toys sells the big air units of each faction. Zerg got Brood Lord, Protoss received the SC2 Carrier and Terran was given the Hyperion model for their Minotaur Battlecruiser.
Author of this video though takes on the side of the dark horse battlecruiser being a behemoth though
So yeah honestly. I still believe in minotaurs and behemoths being the same size due to the lack of good canon statements or evidence saying otherwise imo.
Basically we'll never likely get an official answer and we have to choose a size we best see fit. I choose the 1 kilometer statement (I also still believe in the manual battlecruiser size being the minotaur because if blizzard made the protoss never downsize then the terrans likely didn't either) because we eliminate the dumb Bucephalus 500 meter size scaling. Ingame size scaling of battlecruisers to me isn't reliable because there's too many different models and sizes of the hyperion and battlecruisers as they morph size during missions sometimes.
So how long are you scaling minotaurs then in your vision them
Literally the closest we get for "cinematic" minotaurs are the ingame models but upscaled to be mostly bigger and placed on cutscenes/setpieces like the lotv Korhal arc. You can't hit me with that argument when many other cutscenes and media does the same like the WoL Char assault.
The animators aren;t perfect, they still used a the normal ingame model for the Hyperion when it saved us in Mar Sara and used the same Hyperion model for the battlecruisers and Bucephalus like I've said many times before.
That's a good point actually as I can't find an airwing statement for the minotaur. Though honestly they probably do as minotaurs are meant to be an upgrade in virtually every way against behemoths and storage for both air and ground units inside SC1 and SC2 era are meant to be a given. They're kilometer long capital ships that serves many roles such as base of operations, gunships and transportation.
8 is the maximum number in game and assuming they all jammed together point blank to Baneling. It's pretty much the only method there was to finding it via ingame.
And you still can't deny the sc1 and sc2 carrier and battlecruiser comparisons as most cases of ingame, cutscenes and cinematics are pretty much always even and often end up using the Hyperion model.
They're still on par with each other. It makes little sense for those hyperion models to be mostly made up of old behemoths when the minotaurs are the go to battlecruisers for sc2. Behemoths while still serviceable are all slowly getting phased out like the wraiths. Both are still used but the dominion have been focusing their efforts on replacing these old models more and more by the years.
Diamond Drone's size is close to what I envisioYou're still not giving me a good approximation like the SC2 Carrier man. That's literally all we need.
All battlecruisers are classified as capital ships. All capital ships carry troops and vehicles otherwise what's the point.
It'd be a serious downgrade too if the minotaurs can't carry armies like behemoths because the behemoths are literally getting phased out.
Minotaurs are better off labeled as gunships if they can't carry troops and vehicles. There were gunship class ships before in the lore before wraiths and other fighters took their place. The behemoth and minotaur can both do the same things at varying levels of success. The minotaur edges out in weaponry as they're more moddable and carry newer weapons.
Minotaurs isn't even the latest normal battlecruiser in the series now with the introduction of the Moirai class battlecruisers.
Plus Minotaurs don't travel completely alone as they're the bulk of the Dominion fleet. They're followed by other ships and carry troops and other vehicles themselves. How else would the Dominion flex its muscles if Minotaurs lost that feature from the Behemoths.
Countless battlecruisers died from all the Terran factions during SC1 and they mostly got replaced by the minotaurs by the time of SC2.
Plus during heart of the swarm the Dominion fleet was recalled to Korhal. All battlecruisers were ordered to drop what they were doing and head immediately back to Korhal to stop Kerrigan. One of the common thing they did was drop off all the civilians and other things they were carrying to nearby planets.
They used the Hyperion model because it looks cooler. Minotaurs went into service as early as 2502. Do you really need a mention for that with the knowledge of minotaurs being the go to battlecruisers of SC2.
And if you really wanted some more specifics, Ghost Spectres, Broken Wide and HotS finale all had minotaurs that even the sc wiki sources out.
Also I have a pretty good theory for why they used the regular ingame battlecruiser wreckage model in this scene.
Broken Wide and Ghost Spectres Battlecruiser Storages
You're quite picky about the specifics of minotaur cargo capabilities when they're literally the successor of the behemoth.
So sorry if I come off as too suspicious.
Also here's some more, the process wasn't shown but the battlecruisers dropped off all these dropships to this planet (can't warp jump) and buildings like that command center over there on the top middle portion.
shrugSo like, why is it important if one ship is 500 meters or 1,000 meters?