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Skeptical that starfighters can tank thermal detonators; Gideon's personal Tie Fighter was taken down by a couple of thermal detonators, and a thermal detonator did this much damage to the Millennium Falcon.
It is mentioend that Eta-2 Light Interceptor tanked a Pistoeka sabotage droid self-destruction, but in the scene we don't see the droid exploding and the scene can be interpreted as damaged components exploding.
Agree that there isn't sufficient evidence that lightsabers gets tier upgrade from being used by a Force user. From my previous CRT, the more popular revisions seems to be 'at least Large Building level+' or 'unknown', so they can be voted on next thread.
The argument for Palpatine's feat being Island level is less about direct damage and more about it bypassing capital ship shields. There is a chance upcoming lightning/heat revisions would make the feat unusable for normal AP, but for now there should be evidence that Force Lightning acts on shields as an ion cannon would.
Obviously agree with Force dyad being an amp as I argued for it in the previous thread; the Force dyad is a legendary power that Palpatine was lusting after during the Prequels (and the reason the Sith created the Rule of Two, I hate this retcon), so it goes without saying that it upgrades his base power. Furthermore, Rey attributed the lightning feat to her and Ben's stolen power. The planet being a nexus for Dark Side might be an other amp for Palpatine; he also drew upon the power of previous Sith Lords, and there is no indication he could this during the Prequels.
I agree that the weakness of plantoid shields shouldn't be extrapolated to capital ships, as the shields are made for different purposes; stopping projectiles vs stopping ships from leaving or entering the area around the planetoid (unless they use a Hyperdrive near large objects which is dangerous, unless the pilot has plot armor).
The issue with the Holdo maneuver isn't the concept of high-speed ramming, but that it is overpowered; it split the Supremacy and destroyed at least a dozen Star Destroyers. Hyperdrive projectiles being unblockable one-shot attacks warrants them being mass produced, which would make large capital ships and large stationary bases obsolete. The novelizations and Rise of Skywalker threw in reasons for why such an effective tactic would be rare; the novelization said that the power is due to a chain reaction from the Raddus' experimental prototype shield that created streams of plasma, and Rise of Skywalker just said that it is a one-in-a-million thing (despite Hux recognizing the maneuver and panicking). Either way, it would not be applicable for KE calculation.
For non-canon ships, I think it would be reasonable to use feats from the Originals and Prequels, since the EU is built on at least one of them. Also the page should indicate that the ship is an EU/Legends ship.
It is mentioend that Eta-2 Light Interceptor tanked a Pistoeka sabotage droid self-destruction, but in the scene we don't see the droid exploding and the scene can be interpreted as damaged components exploding.
Agree that there isn't sufficient evidence that lightsabers gets tier upgrade from being used by a Force user. From my previous CRT, the more popular revisions seems to be 'at least Large Building level+' or 'unknown', so they can be voted on next thread.
The argument for Palpatine's feat being Island level is less about direct damage and more about it bypassing capital ship shields. There is a chance upcoming lightning/heat revisions would make the feat unusable for normal AP, but for now there should be evidence that Force Lightning acts on shields as an ion cannon would.
Obviously agree with Force dyad being an amp as I argued for it in the previous thread; the Force dyad is a legendary power that Palpatine was lusting after during the Prequels (and the reason the Sith created the Rule of Two, I hate this retcon), so it goes without saying that it upgrades his base power. Furthermore, Rey attributed the lightning feat to her and Ben's stolen power. The planet being a nexus for Dark Side might be an other amp for Palpatine; he also drew upon the power of previous Sith Lords, and there is no indication he could this during the Prequels.
I agree that the weakness of plantoid shields shouldn't be extrapolated to capital ships, as the shields are made for different purposes; stopping projectiles vs stopping ships from leaving or entering the area around the planetoid (unless they use a Hyperdrive near large objects which is dangerous, unless the pilot has plot armor).
The issue with the Holdo maneuver isn't the concept of high-speed ramming, but that it is overpowered; it split the Supremacy and destroyed at least a dozen Star Destroyers. Hyperdrive projectiles being unblockable one-shot attacks warrants them being mass produced, which would make large capital ships and large stationary bases obsolete. The novelizations and Rise of Skywalker threw in reasons for why such an effective tactic would be rare; the novelization said that the power is due to a chain reaction from the Raddus' experimental prototype shield that created streams of plasma, and Rise of Skywalker just said that it is a one-in-a-million thing (despite Hux recognizing the maneuver and panicking). Either way, it would not be applicable for KE calculation.
For non-canon ships, I think it would be reasonable to use feats from the Originals and Prequels, since the EU is built on at least one of them. Also the page should indicate that the ship is an EU/Legends ship.
