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Springfield upgrades n stuff

Ok. I gave the feat a rough look myself to the car calc. Where homer moved his family out of the way of the speeding car. And got three ways to look at it. Using Marges height of 6'8 (including her hair), we can get the area homer moved in around 35 feet.

1. The frames it took for homer to get across he street and the next scene when the car passes. 10 frames. The show is 24 frames per second. So, 41.6666666667 per frame. Times 10 is 416.666666667 milliseconds. Which finally hits an area of 59.6591 MPH (Super Human)

2. The frames it took from the moment homer started making movement on pushing them. Cuts this in half at 5 frame. So 41.6666666667 per frame. Times 5 is 208.3333333334 milliseconds 119.3182 MPH (Sub Sonic)

3. The frames that had him move in a suddenly burst across the street. Which was 2 frames. So 41.6666666667 per frame. Times 2 equals 83.3333333334 milliseconds 298.2958 MPH (Sub Sonic)

There's my area for the Car feat. Since both his family, and the giant rock restrained him while moving, it is likely he hits Low sub sonic even with the lowest end as the family and giant rock more than double to triple the weight he had to move. I think the Mid or higher end are the better ones to use if you chose use these. So a Sub sonic buff for it by numbers.
 
Doing a Quick KE calc by using all their weight and putting it together with a general weight of the rock

1. 59 MPH is 100,028 Joules (Wall)

2. 119 MPH is 406,922 Joules (Wall)

3. 298 mph is 2,551,822 Joules (Wall)

But the rocks weight I was a little rougher on. But still should be in the same General area of wall.
 
If the car flattens Homer or rams him into a wall, we can use the car's KE in full. Otherwise, we'll use Homer's mass and the car's speed.
 
The feat I was doing didn't involve the car hitting him. It was him pushing his family and the rock out of the way of the car at Sub sonic speeds
 
You mean the Building level durability? If so, I believe I explained above why that's probably not applicable.
 
GyroNutz said:
You mean the Building level durability? If so, I believe I explained above why that's probably not applicable.
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I don't see where you said anything about it. Could you quote or restate it?
 
Oh ok, my bad.

Pretty much the reasoning from this thread. A human doesn't tank the full energy of a lightning bolt; I think it has something to do with the human body having the properties of a faraday cage. Don't quote me on the last part though.
 
GyroNutz said:
Oh ok, my bad.

Pretty much the reasoning from this thread. A human doesn't tank the full energy of a lightning bolt; I think it has something to do with the human body having the properties of a faraday cage. Don't quote me on the last part though.
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From my understanding on lighting. Its because of the types of lighting strikes that can happen. Humans can survive it through luck of what type of lighting it is and how it struck. The deadliest ones striking directly downwards. Like in homers situation. Plus the fact it seemed to continuesly strike him. And this does seem to have consistent cause it happens here to where lighting hits from directly multiple times over [shown here] at 2:50

Though I'll go ask em about it. And see maybe if I'm just missing or not understanding something. I'm not entirely on keen with Lighting. I just know it's hot and typically strong.
 
Asked them. They basically said that Lighting loses some of its energy as it strikes closer to the ground and cause it travels through the human bodies least restiant path (meaning the second feat is gonna be a lot more impressive since he was tied to the Japan Eiffel Tower. And gets struck by it multiple times at a rapid rate. So while a bolt may not be building. The height he was at and the rapid fire has to mean something.
 
Right, forgot about that scene. I think it's more evidence on his resistance to electricity.
 
Calaca Vs said:
Right, forgot about that scene. I think it's more evidence on his resistance to electricity.
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So we should go ahead and just leave it at that (Especially since the car Vaporizing feat, draw bridge feat, and scaling is stronger anyway)
 
If those feats you mentioned are on a higher scale then yes. I think Homer is resistant to electricity, so him being able to tank those lightning bolts is pretty much useless for scaling purposes.
 
Alrighty. Final thing to do before I think his page will be good is (other than adding Scaling to Futuranma and Eletriciry resistance) The Car feat for AP/Durability. Which still working on asking around for help calcing it. I'm unaware what the explosion formula is for Vaporizing calcs
 
It's not so hard. I would do it but the depth of the hole is uncertain for me so I'm not sure. I also don't know how to calc the car explosion so the only thing I could help with is the ground vaporization/pulverization if I find the depth or use an assumed one.
 
Calaca Vs said:
It's not so hard. I would do it but the depth of the hole is uncertain for me so I'm not sure. I also don't know how to calc the car explosion so the only thing I could help with is the ground vaporization/pulverization if I find the depth or use an assumed one.
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It wouldn't be entirely possible to get the exact deepness of the whole. We can really only assume by what we see and measure the hole that way. What I am most concerned about is the car being vaporized. I don't know the numbers for metal Vaporizing. But I have pics for Skinner and his car. So we at least know how much was vaporized
 
If you have the pic please send it to my message wall. I'm going to see if I can calc the feat is some way.
 
Ok. So I was watching Family guy. And I found something interesting. To bring back an old subject Family guy did make a direct reference to crossing over with the Simpsons after the crossover

3:25 shown here
 
Buttersamuri said:
Ok. So I was watching Family guy. And I found something interesting. To bring back an old subject
Family guy did make a direct reference to crossing over with the Simpsons after the crossover

3:25 shown here
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Yeah... No I have to agree on Antvasima on this one the idea makes me a bit uncomfortable to say the least, as illogical and idiotic as this might sound coming from me now in some way shape or form the Simpsons might also one day be granted with teleportation and "minor plot manipulation." via a cutaway the same way or something else is not right most of it actually seems to be jested with also, but overall I don't think it works well also, nice mention anyway.
 
Buttersamuri said:
And that covers the speed feat I have (Probably more, I'll update if I find any or any is brought up below) Now, Durability (I will put what I had thought they could be, however, If they are calced and showed to be different, I'll update)

10. Skinner survived an explosion that almost completely destroyed his car, and concrete under it. [2:29] (No idea. if we go with Vaporization, could be really high)

15. Homers head stopped a car draw bridge [1:16] Small building to Building

17. Homer survived an avalanche [2:53] Wall+

19. The famous beer explosion scene [here] (Was calced at city block, but also is high balled iirc, so possibly lower)


And that covers the durability stuff. Then finally, Attack, this is a lot smaller, but here is something

20. He can make this explosion with cola and rock candy [BOOM!] Building

24. [Homer Grabs onto a beam of light. non corporeal Interaction] 4:02

4. Anybody willing to take a look at the better feats
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Are some of these getting calced or updated on as we speak? No hard feelings just checking or if I can check for mysef, These are the ones that caught my eye the most, especially Homer surviving an avalanche and stopping a car draw bridge.
 
I'm planning to calc the car explosion Skinner survived. I'm just a little busy with other calcs and IRL stuff.
 
Well, the crossover thing wasn't for the sake of scaling. As Homer is just superior to Peter in most all forms. I mostly brought it up cause of the feats or things homer could get from the episode itself. Mostly stuff like the radiation form or UFO landing on him. But that one I wouldn't fully fight for

However, I still stand by Futuranmas being used. For the same reasons ones like Timmy and Jimmys crossover is used


As well. I'm trying to look into the drawbridge feat.
 
Well, I think that Bender was shown inert in the Simpsons family cellar in a regular Simpsons episode, so I suppose that one is likely canon to the show.
 
It also depends on if the feats from the Futurama crossover episode are too outlier-ish though.
 
He was. Later episodes showed him to still be in the basement. And was made by the same creator as well.

And Only feat that I recall correctly that are notable is just homer killing the art things which scaled to the futuranma cast and hurting bender. Which would be City block from where their pages are at. And with this car Vaporizing feat. I predict it won't be too far off from that level if not of that level.
 
We cannot scale Homer to city block level. It would be too far above his general displayed scale.

Even canon crossovers generally rescale the involved characters to fit with the settings of each other.
 
Antvasima said:
We cannot scale Homer to city block level. It would be too far above his general displayed scale.
Even canon crossovers generally rescale the involved characters to fit with the settings of each other.
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As much as I love the yellow mellow fellow(s) I admit City Block does seem a little too much (Maybe coming from an understatement from you ant but Peter ALSO had some city block busting feat involving a mix bewteen atmospheric re entry and an exposion that followed but of course that would of probably be too much of a big leap and also seeing the inconsistencies Family Guy can have.) But Homer surviving the draw bridge feat should be noted also and less of an outlier.
 
The thing I was currently hoping and partially predicting was the car feat bumping them up high enough to where they could get city block without the scaling. And scaling simply made it more consistent. I am aware that he couldn't reach that level through scaling to them alone as rules of crossovers. But that's why I really was trying to get the car feat calced. To my knowledge, a feat like that involving Vaporizing is often rather impressive.

As far as the drawbridge feat. It's been kind of a hard one to see. As I'm trying to find out the force behind drawbridges. And for the one that homers head stopped
 
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