(SPOILERS) Major BFDI Revisions: The Loss of Power

[Soupywolf5]

What kind of tree is it? (We also never see the distance between the wall and the tree)

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

(We also never see the distance between the wall and the tree)

Standard pixel scaling would work

 

[Soupywolf5]

I meant that we don't even get the where the tree was rooted and the wall on screen together, so you can't scale the distance (Also What do you even mean by "standard pixel scaling" is there some elite pixel scaling only done by top tier calc members?)

 

[FRIMI]

ok i always thought that needy's cake feat was an outlier

 

[Soupywolf5]

Also Psycho I swear if you rate Two as 5-A for making Four say ow, then I will personally upgrade all of Toy Story to have 9-C AP

 

[One_strange_boi]

Four isn't actually being physically hurt(look at his face when hes getting hit by a spike ball), but mentally hurt.

 

[Soupywolf5]

5-A mental attacks

 

[One_strange_boi]

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[Soupywolf5]

Yes

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

I meant that we don't even get the where the tree was rooted and the wall on screen together, so you can't scale the distance (Also What do you even mean by "standard pixel scaling" is there some elite pixel scaling only done by top tier calc members?)

Standard pixel scaling, you mean counting the pixels between the tree and the wall.

 

[One_strange_boi]

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[Soupywolf5]

Do it anyway

 

[Psychomaster35]

Bump

And theres a reasoning why I put the 5-A to begin with.

But for now, I still prefer to hold off from making the profile until 2-3 more episodes featuring Two are released to show more powers.

 

[Psychomaster35]

Bump

 

[James_Plays_4_Games]

Don't let this entire episode being plot-induced stupidity with Four distract everyone for the fact that Four should have body control shown after Basketball called him tubby.

 

[Soupywolf5]

I thought he already had body control?

 

[James_Plays_4_Games]

I thought he had elasticity.

 

[Soupywolf5]

Well, iirc in one episode he moved his face to the other side of his body (As an example, also his profile does already have Body Control listed on it)

 

[James_Plays_4_Games]

That is actually because the four shape of his body is always facing the screen as an animation style. That shouldn't be a reason he has body control then.

 

[Soupywolf5]

I meant like this (On Mobile, so I can't link timestamps, so just go to 4:43), I'm pretty sure that would be Body Control

 

[James_Plays_4_Games]

I know whe you mean, but if this where 3D animation that would not happen. Four's shape is always facing the screen as a animation style, I don't consider it a feat. They never want to show a backwards four shape.

 

[Psychomaster35]

It could be laziness for animating him, though, or it is just weird.

 

[James_Plays_4_Games]

It could be laziness for animating him, though, or it is just weird.

Something like that too, though I consider a backward Four a cursed image cause of how Four's four shape always faces the screen. It's really just an established style to me, since they did the same with Two. The point is, Four has a body control feat in BFB 16.

 

[Psychomaster35]

Eh, already has it, unless it can be a supporting feat of his Body Control.

 

[James_Plays_4_Games]

Maybe this is just size manipulation but he becomes skinny instead of growing.

 

[Psychomaster35]

Bump

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

So can we downgrade the cast to High 7-C

 

[Soupywolf5]

I've already explained why not (Also we haven't even applied the Lifting Strength upgrades yet, this would never get done)

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

I've already explained why not (Also we haven't even applied the Lifting Strength upgrades yet, this would never get done)

And I debunked every single one of your arguments

 

[Soupywolf5]

You, really haven't all you've said is doesn't look it so it isn't or brought up Robbie Rotten saying that because he was downgraded they should too, a single discrepancy in onscreen speed doesn't make the wind feat unusable (Otherwise we would need to downgrade a lot of verses speed or things related to it), and the possibility of Needle being ko'd Doesn't make the feat unusable because, unlike Robbie they're actually consistent (With 3 characters tanking the wind that launched Needle, and the extremely casual High 7-C feat)

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

1. Ugh, I don't even need a calc to see that the wind that blown teardrop wasn't relativistic. If you are so insistent on a calc, ask Psycho and we will continue after.

2. Yes, it does make it unusable, because then you can't just assume that all of them tanked the same wind intensity, also, many wrongs don't make a right, so trying to say that we need to downgrade a bunch of others isn't a good argument.

2. "3 characters tanking it" WTF. Pin wasn't pushed further due to the wall to her back, Teardrop fell into the tree after getting blown off her feet, so she didn't get the full force of the wind, only 2 characters at max you can make an argument for, leafy and snowball. But considering how it easily flew needle and teardrop, that just backs up insonsistent.

 

[Soupywolf5]

Such aggressio

That's exactly what I'm saying, you say because the wind wasn't relativistic on-screen a single time when it threw Teardrop, that they weren't being thrown at those speeds (And a thing not being a certain speed on screen a single time isn't a reason to downgrade the verse)

Pin was still thrown into said wall, and Teardrop being thrown into a tree wouldn't make it much better (Especially considering she was then thrown into the wall almost immediately after)

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Such aggressio
That's exactly what I'm saying, you say because the wind wasn't relativistic on-screen a single time when it threw Teardrop, that they weren't being thrown at those speeds (And a thing not being a certain speed on screen a single time isn't a reason to downgrade the verse)

Pin was still thrown into said wall, and Teardrop being thrown into a tree wouldn't make it much better (Especially considering she was then thrown into a wall almost immediately after)

1. It proves it's inconsistent, so you can't assume all of the constestants tanked the same wind force. Also, wind does matter since this is the whole argument your trying to make

2. Pin was offscreen, so we can't use her for anything here. Teardrop got thrown into some leaves and didn't crash into the wall, staying in the leaves, that's not a feat for 7-B. Plus the fact that

A. the winds were weaker than the ones who yeeted needle

B. She got thrown off her feet and into the tree, which proves "tanking the wind" is inconsistent

 

[Soupywolf5]

I never said the wind didn't matter, I'm saying that The wind being slower than it should be on-screen a single time doesn't discredit the feat, especially because the wind would have no logical reason to randomly change its speed (This happens numerous times in various series, and if we did what you're saying, then a lot of verses would be downgraded)

Even if you discount Pin and Teardrop tanking the wind (Which as I've already explained you shouldn't, at least not Teardrop), this is still more consistent than Robbie, because the contestants don't have a billion and one tier 9 anti-feats, (Also how does Teardrop being "thrown off her feet" discredit it?)

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

The OP looks reasonable.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

@Soupy

1. It proves the feat itself is inconsistent, and thus, unusable.

2. Because your argument is that they "tanked" the wind, her being overwhelmed by it is proof it isn't exactly always true

 

[Psychomaster35]

I believe Blue is right.

While you can argue this was cinematic timing, it wasnt. It was rather the inconsistency of the wind. Hence, nobody should scale as they were in varying parts of the wind.

 

[Soupywolf5]

No it doesn't, Thanks for ignoring everything I said on Why that's not the case

Her being thrown by the wind doesn't mean she didn't tank it (It's kind of the opposite)

 

[Soupywolf5]

But alright, let's go with Teardrop and Pin sharing the 7-B feat being unusable, there's still Needle tanking it combined with X's casual High 7-C feat to support it (And the possibility of her being ko'd by the feat doesn't automatically make it unusable)

 

[Psychomaster35]

She survived, but it wasnt made clear if she was even conscious when she crashed. Hence, it is to believe that she was knocked out.

But then again, unlike LazyTown, BFDI's tier 7 feats are consistent, then you are saying it would be like...

Tier: High 7-C, possibly 7-B