Spider-Man General Discussion

[Aguywhodoesthings]

A slightly rough TAS Mysterio render

 

[Dark-Carioca]

A slightly rough TAS Mysterio render

that's pretty good

 

[AnAverageUsername]

So, Black Cat after the events of the first game was transferred to Ravenscroft. There, she underwent cross species experiments. So in her state, she'd probably scale to Spiderman in AP due to being able to hurt him, though this is offset by the fact that our favorite Web Head mocks them for not being a challenge in game, and is probably much faster due to basically teleporting around the museum via pure speed.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Alright, it's confirmed, Kraven scales to Spider-Man due to being able to harm him and take attacks. This also lines up with the fact that he was able to take out and kill 3 other cross species.

Also I just realized there were plans for a Vulture cross species, would have been cool to see

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Also I just realized there were plans for a Vulture cross species, would have been cool to see

That sounds sick

 

[AnAverageUsername]

That sounds sick

Pretty sure it was mentioned in one of the news reports you get when saving someone/doing good deeds (or failing)

also how's that S-01 calc going?

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Just finished the GPE calc right now
The result is 0.004696 Tons or Wall level+, though since it's just 0.0003 Tons away from 9-A i think it could upscale to it

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Just finished the GPE calc right now
The result is 0.004696 Tons or Wall level+, though since it's just 0.0003 Tons away from 9-A i think it could upscale to it

Well that's.... surprisingly low. Oh well, there's still those large "explosions" that the other Spider Slayers can let off.

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

The S-01 has some other feats that might reach higher, like it destroying a fountain during the cutscene before it's boss fight and causing a large explosion with a missile

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Also Kingpin is unironically stronger than Spiderman is these games. Spiderman can't damage him normally, having to bait him into running into walls, and Kingpin just knocks Spidey flat onto his ass with each attack.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

And right after Kingpin's fight, Electro shows off a feat of creating a gigantic electric dome shield. Though it takes 4 generators to perform, so eh.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

I'll just get the fight speak for itself

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Wow, game Tasm spiderman just doesn't care if he lets his villains die. First when Electeo died he literally went "oh well", and when Goblin is impaled by his glider he just shames him.

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Wow, game Tasm spiderman just doesn't care if he lets his villains die. First when Electeo died he literally went "oh well", and when Goblin is impaled by his glider he just shames him.

The Unfriendly Neighborhood Spider-Man

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Damn, Peter just let Kassidy burn in a fire just like that

Anyways, refinish TASM 2 (the game). Sadly, barely any feats seemed impressive compared to the Tasm 1 game. The only boss that was impressive, in my opinion, was Electro.

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

In Episode 12 of Season 2 of TAS, Spidey could avoid several rapidly firing lasers in order to make his way to Dr. Conners
To my understanding the lasers were actual light (as the tablet that fired them reacts to light, and it's effects seem to depend on the type of light used so it probably uses the light it receives somehow) so they would be light speed
obviously an outlier tho still pretty interesting

 

[Dark-Carioca]

obviously an outlier tho still pretty interesting

Nah not an outlier, Spidey constantly dodges lasers in the series

More clarification would be if the lasers were ever reflected back with a mirror, indicating that they're light, but I don't remember an instance of that

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Yeah Spidey does dodge lasers quite a lot but they don't show laser properties a lot of the time so i didn't think it would apply

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Here's a clip to show how the tablet works, seems like it might involve mirrors
Also a clip of Spidey dodging the lasers
Actually considering Spidey and Conners were in the lower section of the temple the lasers were literally just reflected sun light

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Calculated Spidey dodging the lasers

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Evaluated it

The good thing about those dumb laser guns in TAS is that it gives us tons of scenes where Spidey makes those lasers look like jokes

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Exactly what i was thinking, the censorship in TAS ended up giving the characters some amazing feats

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Bruh i'm watching the doctor strange episode in polish and they are calling the ancient one "ancjent wan" instead of translating his name normally

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Exactly what i was thinking, the censorship in TAS ended up giving the characters some amazing feats

Well, not a whole lot of striking feats (they do sneak in a few punches, Semper Jr fought hard against the idiotic censorship and Avi Arad) outside of baddies but definitely a lot of destruction

Shocker casually destroys a building in his debut episode lol

Bruh i'm watching the doctor strange episode in polish and they are calling the ancient one "ancjent wan" instead of translating his name normally

Honestly, trust me, sometimes translating things literally can be pretty horrible xD

In Hispanic America they chose to call him "Hombre Araña" and that name stuck for waaay too long

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Spider-Man TAS did it before the MCU

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Naturally... Because Semper Jr was a huge fan of the comics (specifically the Ditko and Romita Sr eras) and wanted to honor the comics the best way possible, and he knew Ditko's most iconic creations by far were Strange and Spidey, who had met on a few occasions by that point (they do live in the same city after all xD)

TAS also did Spider-Verse before anyone else and it's honestly still the best Spider-Verse since. Yes, even superior to Into the Spider-Verse in my eyes, and I still have that as one of the best Spider-Man movies.

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

In Episode 10 of Season 3 Spidey survived an explosion which he stated would have a blast radius of 200 meters
A quick calculations shows that the yield of an explosion of that size would be 182.215 tons of TNT or Multi-City Block level
tho i'll still need to calculate the distance from the explosion

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Made the calc
the result is only 9-A+ but i guess it's still a nice supporting feat

 

[Dark-Carioca]

I had already calculated that but we can probably use your version since it's closer to the consistency at the time in the series with a bunch of other Building level feats

Including Rhino being able to tank 1 ton of TNT

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Alright then
There's also another neat feat in the same episode, the Carnage symbiote crashed from space in a meteor and made a tiny crater
there's no fragments of the crater visible and there is a lot of vapor coming from the crater so it may be vaporization, which should yield a fairly high result

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Speaking of explosions, and I'm sorry for bringing this up for the umpteenth time, but would there be a way to calculate the Spider Hunter aoe attacks from the Tasm game?

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

The S-01's explosions would probably be pretty easy to calc, it fired a missile directly into itself so it's head can be used for scaling

 

[AnAverageUsername]

The S-01's explosions would probably be pretty easy to calc, it fired a missile directly into itself so it's head can be used for scaling

That too, but it can also emit a blue explosion form underneath it if you stand there too long. Same thing with the flying spider hunters, except they have those at a much bigger scale, covering a bunch of buildings.

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Alright then
There's also another neat feat in the same episode, the Carnage symbiote crashed from space in a meteor and made a tiny crater
there's no fragments of the crater visible and there is a lot of vapor coming from the crater so it may be vaporization, which should yield a fairly high result

Hmm... That could be Building level as well, maybe even Large Building level

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

That too, but it can also emit a blue explosion form underneath it if you stand there too long. Same thing with the flying spider hunters, except they have those at a much bigger scale, covering a bunch of buildings.

That should probably also be calculable with the standard explosion formula

 

[AnAverageUsername]

That should probably also be calculable with the standard explosion formula

You need any videos for the size of them as well as the way they explode?

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

You need any videos for the size of them as well as the way they explode?

Yes that would be helpful

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Yes that would be helpful

Sorry for the rough quality, most letsplayers tend to run away from the giant death dealing attack. Should be seen at the 40 second mark.

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Sorry for the rough quality, most letsplayers tend to run away from the giant death dealing attack. Should be seen at the 40 second mark.

Using the standard explosion formula gives a 8-B result

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Using the standard explosion formula gives a 8-B result

Alright, so the main problem. Spiderman's durability against it is inconsistent when taking into account the 3 difficulties. On easy mode, he's able to survive it even after standing still throughout all of it, but in normal mode he can barely survive it when not getting shocked by the first half, and that's if he can. And in hard mode, he just dies instantly. So it'd be iffy to use for him.