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Spamton gets sued (Spamton vs. Phoenix Wright (Marvel vs. Capcom)) (GRACE)

Going to vote for Spamton due to aforementioned soul hax, Spamton being able to sponge up several attacks from three people over 2x stronger than Wright before going down and Wright's stat amps having a time limit. Phoenix's only 'advantage' is stalling his inevitable loss with Maya's purple shields.
 
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Maizesoup said:
Going to vote from Spamton due to aforementioned soul hax, Spamton being able to sponge up several attacks from three people over 2x stronger than Wright before going down and Wright's stat amps having a time limit. Phoenix's only 'advantage' is stalling his inevitable loss with Maya's purple shields.
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I still have no clue if UT/DR soul hax is actually more damaging than normal attacks or its more or less just non-physical interaction with extra steps.
 
Reploidnoridomix said:
He is ? sorry but I don't know anything about deltarune though,thanks for correct
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No problem

he is a manifastation personified of a Spam ad

He is a crazy salesmen manipulated by a unknow beingh that lost everything he had gained after this beingh disapeared, currently he is showered with agaist and rage tring to be a [[BIF SHOT]] again

he is a really good character and very deep and desesperated

trough phonex wouldn't be able to reason with spamton by saying he will help him become the [[BIG SHOT]] sinse in his NEO key he is alread the Big Shot... kinda
 
First off, adding a battle theme.

As for the actual fight, the ap gap is around 2,3X. Big, but not as overwhelming as everyone's making it out to be. The gap to one shot is 7,5X
Maizesoup said:
Going to vote for Spamton due to aforementioned soul hax, Spamton being able to sponge up several attacks from three people over 2x stronger than Wright before going down and Wright's stat amps having a time limit. Phoenix's only 'advantage' is stalling his inevitable loss with Maya's purple shields.
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Phoenix in character would go for the pacifist option. Spamtons dura means nothing here. Besides, Wright can summun Maya and Missile, it's 3 on 1 just like Deltarune. That cancels out the upscaling.
Board3659 said:
my argument was how Spampton will kill him first before Phoenix can reason
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Debatable, Phoenix has options to heal and can have Maya shield him. Plus the ap gap isn't wide enough to overwhelm quickly enough to stop si.
 
Spamton isn't as mindless as people make him out to be. Even in Spamton NEO, Spamton is still always trying to make a deal and when Kris decides to show him mercy by cutting his strings, he's able to turn himself around as an ally before his chances are dashed away. If someone as limited with speech as Kris is able to make Spamton question his reason to fight, then I think Phoenix shouldn't have a problem.
JustANormalLemon said:
trough phonex wouldn't be able to reason with spamton by saying he will help him become the [[BIG SHOT]] sinse in his NEO key he is alread the Big Shot... kinda
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But Spamton isn't satisfied. He's still on strings and he makes his discomfort with that very clear at the beginning of the fight. If Phoenix can press him on the strings, he can offer to try and help Spamton get rid of them, and there's no real reason why he would object either. As cryptic as Spamton can be, you can tell through his choice of words what he's after. Phoenix being a lawyer shouldn't have any trouble with this, which means he has a shot.
 
DarkwoIf335 said:
Besides, Wright can summun Maya and Missile, it's 3 on 1 just like Deltarune. That cancels out the upscaling.

Debatable, Phoenix has options to heal and can have Maya shield him. Plus the ap gap isn't wide enough to overwhelm quickly enough to stop si.
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Most of Spamton's attacks also only come in one direction. Maya's shielding would help a ton with that.
 
Changing my mind to vote for Phoenix mainly due to me forgetting to consider Social Influencing as a viable option and poor memory rather than ignorance since I actually played UMVC3. Ah well.
 
DarkwoIf335 said:
Plus the ap gap isn't wide enough to overwhelm quickly enough to stop si.
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Soul damage makes the AP diference irrelevant sinse Spamton will 2 shot

MaidRips said:
If someone as limited with speech as Kris is able to make Spamton question his reason to fight, then I think Phoenix shouldn't have a problem.
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Kris dosn't trough? Spamton is 100 into killing Kris the entire fights, in genocide he is just killed by noelle. In pacifist Spamton thinks frisk is helping him by cutting his strings, and only whem the last string is cutted.

Spamton would be really dificult to reason with thanks to his insanity and objectives. For starters, what would Phoenix even reason Spamton with? The only thing that Spamton wants is to be free, and for him there is only 2 ways for that. a Lightner soul or cutting his strings, neitheir would be something Phoenix would even have idea would work while fighting the Puppet
 
Reploidnoridomix said:
gonna regain my vote,I think phoenix have potential to win over spamton by his SI and maya shield
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Also, Spamton starts his fight by falling from the sky over his oponent to trow them into the ground and them atacking, if this fails he uses reality warping to summon a rolercoaster, traps the oponent inside the cart and them starts atacking from a distance as show in the cutcene of the Pacifist fight. only aproched whem frisk could nulifie the projectiles using his soul shoots, so he aproched for better damnaku

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and considering Phoenix has Human LS he would be absolutely eaten with this atack
 
JustANormalLemon said:
Kris dosn't trough? Spamton is 100 into killing Kris the entire fights, in genocide he is just killed by noelle. In pacifist Spamton thinks frisk is helping him by cutting his strings, and only whem the last string is cutted.
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Kris doesn't get a chance to talk with Spamton the entire fight and they don't (and can't) communicate what they're trying to do, a luxury Phoenix has. And Spamton is still very much interested in talking the entire fight, even trying to convince Kris to give up their SOUL. Spamton loves deals. No matter what, he will give it all up for a deal that sounds appealing to him. If this guy can offer to get rid of his strings, no way is he not taking that,
JustANormalLemon said:
Spamton would be really dificult to reason with thanks to his insanity and objectives. For starters, what would Phoenix even reason Spamton with? The only thing that Spamton wants is to be free, and for him there is only 2 ways for that. a Lightner soul or cutting his strings, neitheir would be something Phoenix would even have idea would work while fighting the Puppet
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Yes. He would. In the scenario of fighting Spamton for the first time...
JustANormalLemon said:
Also, Spamton starts his fight by falling from the sky over his oponent to trow them into the ground and them atacking
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A scenario you yourself opened up with. (Plus, he doesn't open up with fighting right afterwards and in a combat scenario, they're already in each other's line of sight so this wouldn't work either way and considering this is IC, Spamton would start by monologuing first)

Spamton shows his visible discomfort with "WHAT ARE THESE STRINGS?? WHY AM I NOT [[BIG]] ENOUGH?!" That can easily be pressed.
JustANormalLemon said:
, if this fails he uses reality warping to summon a rolercoaster, traps the oponent inside the cart and them starts atacking from a distance as show in the cutcene of the Pacifist fight. only aproched whem frisk could nulifie the projectiles using his soul shoots, so he aproched for better damnaku
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That does nothing to damage Phoenix and only gives him more time to start talking to Spamton. The intensity of Spamton's attacks increase the more he progresses. If Phoenix can spam Maya's shield for the easy ones, it buys him a lot more time to exploit his easy wincon of making a deal with Spamton by cutting his strings and making him free.
JustANormalLemon said:
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and considering Phoenix has Human LS he would be absolutely eaten with this atack
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That is Spamton's last attack. It happens like six minutes into the fight. He is not starting off with his arguable finisher.
 
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