Soul King Dimensions

[Ryuuzakiscorpio]

Hueco Mundo, The Royal Palace and Soul Society aren't "pocket" dimensions; this can be disproven using a couple of things. I can also prove that the dimensions are Planet size.

First we can see the sun rays in Soul Society and the Royal Realm.

Hueco Mundo has a fake sky and sun because is always night-time. Aizen was the one who created does because Hueco Mundo only had the moon. So it does not have a real sun but...it does have a real moon. It only specifies that Aizen only created does and the Moon existed before he even when to visit the 2 Espada, Barragan.

Secondly there's the moon, meaning that there is "empty" space surrounding the planet. Considering each dimension have a Moon and a Sun and are surrounded by "empty" space, there is absolutely no reason to assume that the dimensions are pocket dimensions and are actually planet sizes.

In a non-canon movie is shown that Soul Society is planet size but that doesn't count. What really counts is the manga imagine of the moon.

Ichibei specifically stated that he stole 100 nights from 100 hundred years in the future from soul society. (http://********.me/manga/bleach/v67/c610/15.html)

Soul Society Moon-(http://********.me/manga/bleach/v36/c315.2/14.html), (http://********.me/manga/bleach/v36/c315.2/16.html), (http://********.me/manga/bleach/v36/c315.2/17.html), (http://********.me/manga/bleach/v36/c315.6/19.html)… And there are plenty more of these pages.

The Royal Realm Moon-(http://********.me/manga/bleach/v69/c630/19.html)

Hueco Mundo's Moon- (http://********.me/manga/bleach/v35/c313/5.html), (http://********.me/manga/bleach/v40/c344/18.html), (http://********.me/manga/bleach/v40/c344/19.html)

Plus we can now confirm the Universe exists in Bleach since, "the power summoned by Ichimonji can be stolen, but it cannot be used by the assailant or used against Ichibē because he controls all of the color black in the "universe"; as such, it is simply restored to him, proven when Yhwach's Sankt Altar fails to work against him."-this is quoted from the wiki and it can be proven because in the manga panels Ichibei is referring to all the dimensions, in general, including the living and the dead. (http://www.**********.com/bleach/608/14), (http://www.**********.com/bleach/608/15), (http://www.**********.com/bleach/608/16)

Remember he was given the power to name everything that exists by the Soul King.

 

[Blahblah9755]

I can't really say for certain, but iirc it was stated somewhere that when shinigami die their Reishi becomes the stars in the SS sky, which would imply that SS uses an artificial sky made of Reishi.

 

[Quincy_King]

^no,they are reincarnated as a newborn human or if eaten by a hollow they just disapear

 

[Ryuuzakiscorpio]

All Shinigami and Plus reincarnate into the World of the Living normally unless certain special circumstances accrue such as being eaten by a Hollow which causes them to simple not exist anymore. And being eaten by a Bount which does the same thing.-(Bounds are Filler)

It's hard to tell if failing to be hollowfied results in a normal reincarnation or if the person simply ceases to exist though the latter seems more likely as they become sand/dust like Bounts do when they die.

Normal Hollows go to the Soul Society when killed by a Shinigami as I believe Gillians do as well, however, Arrancar do not but we don't know truly what happens to them though it has been suggested and show that they go to Hell.

Whether or not Adjuchas and Vasto Lordes do as well is, unfortunately, unknown to us, however, we do know that all Hollows killed by a Quincy cease to exist without exception.

Quincy are much different, their very souls are connected to their king's so when they die, it goes to their King along with all their knowledge, experience and skills unless eaten by a Hollow.

 

[Illuminati478]

Ok, you convinced me, the Royal realm has a moon. how does this translates to a moon leve upgrade for any character? i mean even Ichibe's 100 nights statement is very vague? we don't exactly know what he means or how he would do that...

 

[Davy0]

Ok, you convinced me, the Royal realm has a moon. how does this translates to a moon leve upgrade for any character? i mean even Ichibe's 100 nights statement is very vague? we don't exactly know what he means or how he would do that...

That's the story of Bleach's life.

Ah, Ryu-san I can see you're making your rounds again. What is it today. Can you prove that characters are moon level, or planet level with actual feats or WOG. Also realzie that the Soul King didn't make the moon, the Soul King is a being who was "captured" to regulate the spiritual energy so you can't state that characters are moon or planet level from that. As it seems to have no bearing on the characters actual ability to use that energy to create or destroy.

I'll let you answer back now. This will be interesting.

 

[Gwynbleiddd]

I don't think he was captured, but i don't think the SK has any power outside of the bleach verse

 

[Davy0]

They said he was captured, he's sealed within the crystal. It limits his ability to control his power. So all he can do is wait in a prison, him being alive is the reason spiritual energy doesn't wreak havoc on any spiritual-based worlds.

 

[Illuminati478]

as far as i remember the manga says he was created to maintain the realms in the bleach universe, not sure how they were maintend originally, but when he was dying all the realms started to fall apart simulteneusly in a rapid fasion...

 

[Ryuuzakiscorpio]

The Soul King was not created by Soul Society that was a translation error, Yhwach never said that, he said that the only purpose of the soul king is to regulate the dimensions.

"to regulate the spiritual energy so you can't state that characters are moon or planet level from that"- It was already stated that it is one's power what regulates the dimensions, so yeah the soul king has enough power or in this case spiritual energy to hold does dimensions together. The same goes to Yhwach, Jugram explain that the world wouldn't be able to exist without Yhwach's own power.

The Soul King is planet level with his own power, do to the fact that he is able to hold the dimensions with it, (which should be higher but for now is this until the other dimensions are calculated.) and Yhwach is now Planet Level after absorbing him, do to the fact that it's now his own power what holds the dimensions together.

 

[Davy0]

Huh... I don't remmeber ALL the realms changing. I remember the realms that were created from reishi specifically falling apart. And not Hueco Mundo, and not Earth, and not Dangai, but the Seirei.

 

[Davy0]

The Soul King was not created by Soul Society that was a translation error, Yhwach never said that, he said that the only purpose of the soul king is to regulate the dimensions.
"to regulate the spiritual energy so you can't state that characters are moon or planet level from that"- It was already stated that it is one's power what regulates the dimensions, so yeah the soul king has enough power or in this case spiritual energy to hold does dimensions together. The same goes to Yhwach, Jugram explain that the world wouldn't be able to exist without Yhwach's own power.

The Soul King is planet level with his own power, do to the fact that he is able to hold the dimensions with it, (which should be higher but for now is this until the other dimensions are calculated.) and Yhwach is now Planet Level after absorbing him, do to the fact that it's now his own power what holds the dimensions together.

It doesn't matter if he was created by them. They sealed him. It's not his power that makes him planet level, it's his ability to control the flow that makes the potential destruction that's caused from it planet level. There's a difference.

 

[Ryuuzakiscorpio]

Here is Soul Society and we known that it is a planet, to add more it haves animals, forest and mountains outside of the sereitei.



Now this is Soul Society been destroy.






Here is the real world.




Here is Hueco Mundo, along with the real world and Soul Society.

 

[Davy0]

Nah, he said Hueco Mundo, Soul Society and the real world. That could have also been a picture of more parts of the Soul Society. Blame Kubo. If he'd had made an impact by showcasing a human settlement being destroyed it would have been clearer, but you can't state that, that was the actual world being destroyed when the Soul Society also has greenery. I've already agreed that without his control, the world would be destroyed. But it's not his power that's causing the destruction, which I'll say again. Take for instance the control of gravity feat that Fujitora shows. He held up rubble from the destroyed places of an island. But while he was controlling it, was him letting go of it also a byproduct of his gravity? No. It didn't have to be. The releasing of said rubble could have caused destruction still even without him speeding up the process. That's what's being considered here, is it his power that causes the destruction, his powers on relate to the flow of reishi, the Shinigami and Hueco Mundo dimensions all relate to reishi so that's understandable. But does that mean he can use that power himself to destroy the world if it already causes the destruction just by turning it off? No. It doesn't.

 

[Ryuuzakiscorpio]

It was said that it was his power what holds them together.

Here:

 

[Davy0]

"Holds them together". It also stated that he regulates the flow of Reishi and that, that is his power by being alive. Unless you can show him actually using that power creatively or destructively you can't just say that he has the ability to destroy or create the world.

 

[Ryuuzakiscorpio]

Nah, he said Hueco Mundo, Soul Society and the real world. That could have also been a picture of more parts of the Soul Society. Blame Kubo.

So, what's is stopping it from been the real world? It was confirm that earthquakes were hapenning in the real world, so what's stoping the land from shattering apart? Do you have proof that its not the real world?

 

[Davy0]

Once again... And I'm getting tired of saying it. It's not because his power that the destruction happens. Say I hold a propeller of a plane in place (highly dangerous) while it's beginning to rev with my own sheer strength. I'm stopping it from moving, but do I control the propeller, or just when it moves. That's this scenario.

He hasn't shown that level of destruction, nor does he directly control the reishi unless you have scans that prove that. He controls its flow. His being alive makes him keep it together, but can it be used destructively or creatively. Automatically giving him the power when we've only seen this guy elevate his City, or Town or whatever it is, after Kk stated that it was only Small Continent Level (maybe less because again we don't know the true size of Vanderreich, all we know is that it's within the limits of the Seireitei itself.

 

[Ryuuzakiscorpio]

The Vandereich size is here. Moving on.

Well he did use his "power" here without even blinking or moving a finger.





Should i add that the soul society is made out of reishi? So, lifting the Vandereich proof that he has power over it.

Also he created his own dimension from scrath and manipulated the reishi that was already 10x heavier than the sereitei, making it even heavier so they couldn't walk on the air.









He did all of this will sitting on his throne with his mind.

 

[Davy0]

First off, I already agreed he picked up the Vandereich yet we still don't know the size of it to state that it was comparable to the Seireitei in size. The Seireitei vanishing gives us no indication of its true size. All it looks like to me, from the perspective pictures is a reasonably sized city, with pushed together buildings. So I wouldn't use that if I were you.

The Soul Society is made of Reishi. And what does that mean to him being capable of moving an entire planet the same as he moved the Vandereich. The heaviness thing doesn't mean anything. If he's as powerful as you say, he should be capable of doing that. Quincy's control spiritrons, so they can take away spiritual energy my manipulating it in the atmosphere, that has nothing to do with the complete control over reishi.

Actually, I'm hard pressed to think that the Soul King's "dimension" is an actual dimension now. Considering the weird flying eldritch abomination could get their on its own ability, it would mean that it isn't a separate dimension, only separated by a huge distance. So you can't state that, the Soul King created the Palace as another dimension anymore unless you give proof to that after Kubo made the mistake of showing people are capable of flying there. Plus he moved the buildings into that "dimension", which also points to less dimensions than you originally stated.

Stacked buildings... awesome.

 

[Ryuuzakiscorpio]

It seems that you posted your answers in the wrong sections. Moving along. The Vandereich size it has been already stablish. Is not a city since one of the little platforms can hold an entire sea all by themself. The dimensions are different and they already been stablish to be different dimensions from the beginning. Mimihagi-cross dimensions that's one of the reasons he is sub-realitic.

The zero squad and the gotei explain that the Royal Realm is seperate from the Soul Society in another dimension.

Everything you say doesn't make sense becuase it contradis the author's work. So Kubo>>>You. He shows proof you only words which don't make sense if you watch Bleach. So, please read it or stop making claims that are not happening.

 

[Davy0]

No it's not. Can you show me a scan that states that he crossed the dimensions. Because I saw nothing that stated he did, nor was it said he did. All it showed was him flying into the sky, which would mean otherwise.

Then please show a scan of that. It would also mean that he could not have "flown" there, but just use a dimensional rift to reach said place. As the Royal Palace's distance from the Soul Society is not known. How could he have flown there if it's a different dimension in itself. How wide are these dimensions and how much time would it have taken to cross them in the first place. Either way, that's suspicious in itself.

Yeah, that's it. I'm logical about everything else. People agree with my logic in every topic except for Bleach which has the most logic out of any series in the Vs Battle Portfolio. It's is truly a shining example of the glory of Kubo-sama. All hail Kubo-sama. All hail the King.

 

[Ryuuzakiscorpio]

• facepalm* my stament that you don't read Bleach is true. Your statment and not been actually dimensions makes me lol. Not just that but the actual that you even thought that Mimihagi was not able to cross dimensions on his own. I'm done. Talk about Bleach when you have knowdledge about it. If you don't want to read it is fine, just go search what you want on the wiki or something.

 

[Davy0]

It just means that you accept your loss. That's good. I'll be joining every other thread you make from now on if I see anything wrong with it. So don't you worry Ryuu-san. You'll be seeing a lot more of me. We can play good cop, bad cop with your imagination. I'll be the bad cop that makes sure that you don't get away with trying to abuse Bleach's principles and the characters abilities and make them stronger than they actually are, of course, and you try to be the good cop who does everything seemingly honestly, makes up imaginary numbers to suit his own best interests, and tries to use words in a way that don't fit the actual meaning of what is actually being implied.

 

[Ryuuzakiscorpio]

Oh, i didn't loss. This is not the point nor i care if i win or lose. I'm not the one who shows his true colors. Just by looking at the from the main page of Bleach here, i can know and read. And anyone else who knows about Bleach knows which i stated is true. You can look it up but better yet start reading from chapter 1.

Then you can stated your opinion over the Bleach-verse. You should get banned from commeting in Bleach threads until you learn the basics about it. Isn't that a rule here? It should be. Since the first 2 arcs we know about the dimensions and everything. But somene like you won't believe me, because you're one of does that likes to hear your own voice. For the once that are interested here , and no i didn't changed if you ask, because all the wiki accounts are connected and it will say when was the last time it was updated and who last updated it, not to mention that is closed. Have nice day, am i hope you come to understand Bleach someday.

Rememble that everything you appear in a Bleach thread noneone agreads with you so why bother?

 

[Davy0]

Nah you kinda did. I always show my true colors. I'm impatient with people who act stupid. Hot tempered and stubborn. And I don't mind doing exactly what you try to do when you do it because it's more fun that way.

There are times when I've defended the Bleachverse. If you need to talk to anyone, talk to Schutaloo (Schutzen) about it. I've tried to defend it. He's far more honest than you are, and though we don't agree with some things such as the flow, he understands that trying to defend Bleach can be a pain in the ass due to vagueness. So keep trying, you'll get there eventually.

No one... agrees with me. Interesting. Because I don't see you any closer to making him Planet Level. I also remember people saying that they didn't agree with the things you did a few months ago, because you were being dishonest. And that's probably why it took you a few months to try to bring up the same topic you did about two weeks ago. Hm... I wonder.

It doesn't matter however, you're no closer to your goal than you started. What I would suggest to you is to actually wait for those feats you want so badly to come and then put up a thread.

 

[Ryuuzakiscorpio]

Like i said get the Bleach manga volumen 1 and start reading. Then you can claim what you want. Nothing you say makes sense in Bleach, and like i said before you're contradicting the author when:

Kubo>>>>>>>>>>>>You.

Proof>>>Your claims.

So? What about what i did a few months ago? At least i got Yhwach to a possible Planet level, why wouldn't I deliver the whole package? The only thing that bothers me about you is that you don't know enough about Bleach to actually comment in something. Get inform and then speak.

I'm dishonest? At least i'm not comenting and asking questions about a topic without knowing what actually happens in his verse.

 

[Davy0]

Yeah... That's right. Keep going. Keep being stupid.

Then why does Kubo make everything so vague!

Why does all this proof lead to more questions!

Nah you got him at Possible Planetary Level, now you need to show the proof that he is at that level, otherwise he just stays at Continent Level, not even Moon Level, Ryu-san.

I don't know what happens. Again, go ask Schut. I've defended characters such as Yoruichi, shown scans of why, realistically, she should still be capable of outspeeding Soifon in a thread, even though Soifon went through the Royal Training.

But keep going. I don't know Bleach. I don't know Ichigo-senpai. Orihime-senpai so kawaii~.

 

[Ryuuzakiscorpio]

What does knowing the characters names have to do with the verse as a whole? I know most of the One Piece characters but i don't watch it? So, does that makes me know everything about that verse? No.

Funny calling names. Keep it up. Because it doesn't matter what you call me. Since you are the one representing your image. Which i doubt that you care about. I also don't care about mine but calling someone names is just to far, like is your life depended on this thread. lol

 

[Quincy_King]

Lock thread please as an Insult as been made ...

 

[Davy0]

... (Sighs)

I can't even begin to describe the stupidity of what you just said after I'd just given you one of the reasons why although I dislike Bleach I'd defend it if what was stated was the actual truth. You just dislike the fact that people don't like listening to your BS when they know damn well how you operate. But hey, if you'd just wait for that awesomely climatic battle that's gonna make Bleach the super power of the HST again, you'd be just peachy.

 

[Non-Bias]

What's the point of this thread exactly? To show that some characters are Moon/Planetary/Dimensional Level or something? I really can't make out what's being discussed here lol.

 

[Quincy_King]

@Everlasting please lock this thread and the other bleach one before more insults are made...

 

[Davy0]

There's nothing being discussed here. He's trying to say that not only does he regulate the reishi, but also created the universe because there is a moon in the Royal King's "dimension". Even though he only regulates the flow of spiritual energy. You know, it's Ryuu-san we're talking about here. He'd make the best Soap-Opera. The woes of Ryuu, King of the failed Bleach Conquests.