Sora vs Dante

[KnightOfSunlight]

Dante's regen doesn't actually weaken, but his physical stats do if he fights at full power for extended periods of time. Combined with the AP difference, I don't think Sora will make a reasonable dent before Dante slaps him with DSD and he dies.

And remember, Dante is well above baseline in his normal forms. His DT and SDT will make that wide gap an absolute chasm, and combined with Dante's absurd resistances along with his elemental weaponry to counter Sora's magic, Sora doesn't have much to fall back on. Even with a recovery skill like One More and Second Chance, he can't make up for that disadvantage.

The literal only thing he really has, definitively, is Warp, which is possibly going to be rescaled to BFR rather than EE. Outside of that, or if Warp is BFR, Dante takes this with little effort.

 

[DarkWraths]

Dante FRA

 

[Bobsican]

Sora also has teleportation, by the way, which he can use to dodge stuff.

 

[Theglassman12]

Dante can do the same thing and has fought teleporters in the past. That's nothing new

 

[HST_Master]

Also this isn't a Wincon. Lethal Frame is literally just Sora stopping time for all enemies and attacking within it. The AP difference + Regen makes this and Stop Magic useless. Warp is his only dura negating spell. And if it somehow does manage to get turned into bfr(which given it's description I doubt), then Sora can do nothing but get one shotted repeatedly.

 

[KnightOfSunlight]

Half the bosses and enemies that Dante fights use teleportation to some degree. He can also tag and track a demon that travels through holes in space-time like teleportation with ease.

 

[Bobsican]

Also this isn't a Wincon. Lethal Frame is literally just Sora stopping time for all enemies and attacking within it. The AP difference + Regen makes this and Stop Magic useless.

Not really, as he won´t regen while he´s time stopped obviously.

 

[Theglassman12]

Which won't matter cause Dante is far too strong to get a dent on him by Sora, and that's assuming he even uses that move in character.

 

[Bobsican]

The AP gap is enought to make Sora seem less than a mosquito? Just asking.

 

[Theglassman12]

Considering DMC 2 Dante can oneshot someone above baseline easily, and this Dante is FAR STRONGER than DMC 2 Dante, yes Sora's attacks won't hurt him.

 

[Bobsican]

It´s to be noted that Sora also has the Scan ability, which allows him to easily see the health of the opponent.

If he notices he can´t just smack Dante, he´ll quickly start using his best moves.

 

[Theglassman12]

And how does that change the oneshot? Especially when Dante can get faster with DT and essentially blitz Sora?

 

[Bobsican]

Second Chance and Once More, once again.

And Sora blitzes with speed unequalized

 

[Theglassman12]

This matchup would be closed if that was the case

And how many times can he do that until he cannot resurrect?

 

[Bobsican]

Causality ressurection? Unlimited, really

Second Chance and Once More? They don´t actually resurrect, but more like just letting him not be simply one shotted

"Once More: Sora cannot be killed by a combo for as long as he was not already on his last legs prior to taking an attack, instead being left critically injured but still able to fight and defend himself.

Second Chance: Sora will survive any attack that would otherwise kill him unless he is already on the verge of death prior to taking the attack."

- The profile

There´s also the Kupo Coin, which only works once automatically.

And again, Dante doesn´t appear to have options against Mini (which drastically decreases Dante´s stats... and size) and Sleepga.

 

[Schnee_One]

Dante screams NLF and punches through it

 

[Bobsican]

Dante screams NLF and punches through it

The Causality manip would then just be triggered and then the match repeats ad infinitum.

 

[KLOL506]

Dante screams NLF and punches through it

The Causality manip would then just be triggered and then the match repeats ad infinitum.

And Sora keeps losing to a weird pizza man regardless.

 

[Schnee_One]

I need to see the res being infinite

 

[HST_Master]

W-Where did infinite ress come in?

Oh and Congrats Schnee.

 

[Imaginym]

If I recall what's been said about what's in the KH3 Ultimania, The Power of Waking DID rewrite reality when it backfired on Sora for excessively misusing it. IIRC, Sora used it to traverse worlds to reach hearts. Young Xehanort said that it's for "traversing hearts to reach worlds, not for traversing worlds to reach hearts,"

https://www.khinsider.com/news/King...Scenario-Mysteries-Interview-Translated-14746

Nomura: The power of awakening is essentially "the power to put sleeping hearts back the way they were." But the impact of forcing his friends' fading hearts back the way they were rewrote reality, and created a singularity. The rewrite caused the chronology in which they were destroyed to have "never happened."

For Sora to be revived in the circumstances: 1. He needed a form in The Final World; It's where one goes when the Heart & Body perish. He had a form because Kairi was holding on with all her strength. Using that he was able to collect his "conceptually scattered" pieces.

Then, he went after the Heartless that took the hearts of his friends, & presumably, that's when he misused the Power of Waking. That caused the rewrite.

It's unlikely Kairi's involved in this match (SBA, no other characters from either side's 'verse.) & I doubt he would have that much motive to abuse the Power of Waking; When he did it, it was to ressurect his friends.

I don't think Sora has infinite resurrection.

 

[Bobsican]

It's unlikely Kairi's involved in this match (SBA, no other characters from either side's 'verse.) & I doubt he would have that much motive to abuse the Power of Waking; When he did it, it was to ressurect his friends.

I don't think Sora has infinite resurrection.

I guess that´s why the Type 8 immortality got removed or something?

 

[Imaginym]

I'm not entirely sure. Any idea where the removal was discussed.

He does SORT OF have a dependent Immortality, since Kairi was able to give him a form to use in TFW, & from there he reassembled himself, & returned to the world of the living (I think?) to get his friend's hearts back.

So it seems like Sora did revive himself (With help from Kairi.). His friends just came back because of an unintended consequence of abusing the Power of Waking.

There's also Chirithy "letting slide" that Sora's crossed from sleep into death more than once. Presumably this refers to stuff related to the Station of Awakening, but given there's a fight in some place like TFW in KH3's intro & I THINK there was some statement about KH3's intro being at the beginning....

Well, that might be something to untangle.

 

[Bobsican]

Okay, please say it here, thanks.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Sora FRA

 

[Schnee_One]

Reasons?

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Going with Dante FRA

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Dante doesn't resist BFR anymore.

 

[Schnee_One]

Then yeah Warp will work

Still the idea of leading with it is a thing

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Well then, Dante FRA.

 

[Schnee_One]

Graceuu

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

doesn't sora have res tho

 

[Schnee_One]

....Read the thread dude.....

We addressed this dozens of times

I hope you didn't just blindly FRA without reading it.

 

[KnightOfSunlight]

Res doesn't matter when you can be sealed away, amongst a few other things.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

And Dante is about to get Interdimensional Travel so BFR is not a thing...yeah

 

[HST_Master]

And Warp hasn't been accepted as BFR anyway? After Ress it becomes a "Who shoots 1st" Situation.

 

[KLOL506]

Welp. Wacky Wohoo Pizza Man FRA

 

[HST_Master]

Then yeah Warp will work

Still the idea of leading with it is a thing

He doesn't. He would be more likely to use it post ress and unlike Dante's sealing, it casts on target.

 

[Schnee_One]

The match has concluded and grace is long since over.

Feel free to send this to the match addition as I am in work.